Is Robert Fripp Overrated?

M27Barney wrote: If Fripp is God - I want to know which one - there are such a lot to choose from....well he's sitting down a lot so that possibly makes him like those Indian gods as they always seem to be sitting down..... I think it's a bit small-minded to liken Mr Fripp to an imaginary and lets face it - fairly powerless personification....A true Fripp fan would liken him to a more potent force like an Active volcano twiddling with a Gibson or summat like that....

How dare you put down my exalted god Amon Ra. May many black sphinxes cross your path and cause your bandages to unravel cursed one.

LSDisease wrote: Dayvenkirq wrote: You've read the part where I mentioned the chemistry of speed, technique, and awkward fingerplay, right? If you play a note really fast, things don't get much more difficult. Speed alone doesn't add to the difficulty. We are talking playing whole tones here. that's obvious I wasn't talking about a single note, I was talking  about the composition. Fripp can play really fast but his articulation is rather poor while doing it. That's the point from the very beginning of this conversation.

I just brought the single note as an example, to make a point that speed alone doesn't make the execution much more complicated. As for poor articulation, I still don't hear it.

Dayvenkirq wrote: You've read the part where I mentioned the chemistry of speed, technique, and awkward fingerplay, right? If you play a note really fast, things don't get much more difficult. Speed alone doesn't add to the difficulty. We are talking playing whole tones here.

that's obvious I wasn't talking about a single note, I was talking  about the composition. Fripp can play really fast but his articulation is rather poor while doing it. That's the point from the very beginning of this conversation.

I hate when people call Fripp "God" because he is not "God". He is creative and that's that

^Perhaps if you played the spoons?

The Doctor wrote: JJLehto wrote: Talent wise? Yes As a musician? Well...I guess that is up for personal debate, KC is still a top 20 band for me, even as my tastes have changed and found so many more bands over time, and they have one of stronger discogs in my book, so he's pretty good as a musician/composer I say! I'll grant, when you are made out to be god by default you're probably a bit overrated, and I don't think he's the best but I love KC and think Fripp is pretty dope.  Many great points have been made already so no need to add on to why he's pretty dope IMO Comparing Fripp to god is overrating god.    Whoa! Where did that lightning come from?

Edited by SteveG - July 29 2014 at 15:43

^ None of your posts serve as counter-arguments to what I've just said.

Edited by Dayvenkirq - July 29 2014 at 17:28

^ Constructs never make an argument easier. They are just that - figments of our perception. And there is no need to put me down for trying to get everyone to agree on some definitions, because it is usually the lack of understanding of some words that makes us all sound like we are not speaking the same language, which leads to more confusion as a discussion progresses (or regresses ) or remains stagnant.

Edited by Dayvenkirq - July 29 2014 at 15:32

SteveG wrote: What makes a guitarist 'rated' to people to start with? I'm losing the theme of many of these discussions as members seem to have a preset idea of what an 'overrated' guitarist should be, be it a speed player or slower more complex player (hint) or perhaps someone more melodic that relies more heavily on the techniques that he mastered and avoids those he hasn't and so on. Whatever you perceive to be a 'rated' (very good) guitarist with something special in your eyes makes him 'overrated' (great). Perhaps it's time to retire this word 'overrated' and opt for another superlative. Forum philosophers, do have any suggestions?

What is "rated" in the context of these discussions? That's what confuses me in your application of the word. "Rated" to me sounds like you've given a guitarist this-many stars. "Overrated" and "underrated" aren't exactly about stars. Pick up a dictionary.

Edited by Dayvenkirq - July 29 2014 at 15:20

What makes a guitarist 'rated' to people to start with? I'm losing the theme of many of these discussions as members seem to have a preset idea of what an 'overrated' guitarist should be, be it a speed player or slower more complex player (hint) or perhaps someone more melodic that relies more heavily on the techniques that he mastered and avoids those he hasn't and so on. Whatever you perceive to be a 'rated' (very good) guitarist with something special in your eyes makes him 'overrated' (great). Perhaps it's time to retire this word 'overrated' and opt for another superlative. Forum philosophers, do have any suggestions?

Edited by SteveG - July 29 2014 at 14:37