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jefmoret 
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 Topic: Your Word PROG’s definition
Posted: September 14 2005 at 11:15 |
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Traditional Rock + X = Prog, where X=....
An expanded level of intellect and innovation in the songwriting
A greater display of technical performance
An architecture borrowed from classical and/or jazz
A stronger integration of visual presentation, both in performance and in packaging
Songs that provide a feeling that you have gone somewher rather than just listed to music
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Sam Fire
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 22:20 |
Interestingly enough, today at stage crew for my school's fall musical ("Once Upon This Island", anyone heard of it?), my science teacher and I were trying to explain what prog was to a couple of those prep/hippie/happy people that run around wearing discordant colors and clothes  . Neither of us got very far, they kept thinking that we were referring to Prague (D'oh!). So we gave up and started bemoaning the fact that no radio stations near us play any prog (except Roundabout, Lucky Man, and some various Rush songs on the local classic rock station- but you have to wait through all sorts of musical filth and meanless DJ-talk to get to it!).
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Gaston
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 22:15 |
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Too hard of a question.
You could have a thread describing each SUB genre of prog. Sheesh.
Gaston
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It's the same guy. Great minds think alike.
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Arsillus
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 22:12 |
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My prog definition: Get good recommendations and then listen, listen, listen!
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alan_pfeifer
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 21:44 |
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Prog for me: Music that pushes forward whatever the mainstream music is doing.
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mburkhardt
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 20:21 |
 RaphaelT wrote:
Prog - bands who play songs longer than three minutes and who are on the radio after 3 AM.
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Best definition I've ever heard. I've always tended to think of prog as more of a state of mind than an actual musical form, which is why I've loosely included genre-bending bands like Steely Dan and Kraftwerk in my personal definition. (please refrain from flaming me....pleeeze!!! )
If its any consolation, I know people who only consider Byrds or mid-60s Beatles songs as "pop," rather than the broader connotation of popular music. I see the point in both instances, it just doesn't necessarily work in my own corner of the world.
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"The frog was a prince, the prince was a brick, the brick was an egg, the egg was a bird."
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Odysseus
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 13:21 |
Cool pic, Kohllapse. 
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 13:19 |
Kohllapse wrote:
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Thi is the exhaustive definition !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Prog in person, His Majesty Ian Anderson (and his bright flute) (1977-1978 I presume...)
Edited by Andrea Cortese
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Kohllapse
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 13:08 |
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Odysseus
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 13:07 |
My brain is hungry! Oh well, guess I'm gonna have to spin some Tull, then... 
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 12:47 |
meurglysIII wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
Prog is Brain Food. |
Yummy brain food at that
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My "large" interpretation of the word "prog":
prog is not a brain food, is a brain menu!
Edited by Andrea Cortese
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Zac M
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 12:42 |
Trouserpress wrote:
Prog is Brain Food.
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Yummy brain food at that
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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."
-Merleau-Ponty
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The Hemulen
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 12:40 |
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Prog is Brain Food.
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 12:39 |
RaphaelT wrote:
Prog - bands who play songs longer than three minutes and who are on the radio after 3 AM.
It's not mine, it belongs to Polish progressive guru Piotr Kosiński.
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"Kosa" is such a bastard!
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el böthy
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 12:35 |
Andrea Cortese wrote:
Strict or large interpretation?
(I support the last one).
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Large interpretation...you might need a whole manual to understan it...
"Understanding Prog for dummies".
hehehehehe 
still, the best way to understand it is to listen to it...its not as easy as punk
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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sonic_assassin
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 12:16 |
| Prog - bands who play songs longer than three minutes and who are on the radio after 3 AM |
Aah, excellent, then Hawkwind are definitely still prog 
I'm gonna listen to their new album later (when it's getting dark and I've had a few beers)....
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MANTICORE
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 12:16 |
 Me Too..!
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The Beatles
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 12:03 |
RaphaelT wrote:
Prog - bands who play songs longer than three minutes and who are on the radio after 3 AM.
It's not mine, it belongs to Polish progressive guru Piotr Kosiński.
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Thank you for answer!
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RaphaelT
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 12:02 |
Prog - bands who play songs longer than three minutes and who are on the radio after 3 AM.
It's not mine, it belongs to Polish progressive guru Piotr Kosiński.
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yet you still have time!
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 11:37 |
I've read also in this site a long definition of the word "prog". There are so many aspects: long lenght song, fantastic world lyrics about, complex arrangements, non-conventional instruments etc.....
The question is: in your opinion, all these elements must be present in the same moment and in the same song or album to make you define that song or that album "prog"?
I think is not always necessary, for some albums or songs being enough something of these.
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