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    Posted: August 26 2018 at 07:56
Originally posted by britishmusicrocks britishmusicrocks wrote:

Thanks again everyone. When I get home later tonight, I will put a playlist together, and air a show of 'British Prog Rock' on Saturday at 7pm (CST). I will post the player links later on.
I've read through the forum, and it appears I created more of a discussion than I ever though would happen. My goal is to learn more about prog rock and create a block of prog rock music. When I created my radio station, I did more for myself and if others listen that great in my book.
 
As far as only playing British rock on my station - I love British Rock. Nothing against the other bands across the pond, But British musicians fascinate me.
 
I didn't want to create a debate for my topic, I just want to learn more about prog rock, and who better to help me dig a little deeper than this forum.
 
Thanks again and have a great weekend. Paul
 

I genuinely hope we (I am assuming I can speak for many here but apologies if I assume incorrectly) have helped you in your quest. Your request was simple and clear enough but its just the nature of this place things often go off at odd tangents (often fascinating ones) and frequently generate more heat than light. Good luck with your endeavors and do delve deeper into the more obscure Brit stuff because you will find diamonds!

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Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

Just play:
The Revealing Science Of God
Close To The Edge
Gates Of Delirium

That's about an hour, right? Problem solved.
 

I will disqualify a couple on the basis that Alan White (and Patrick Moraz) played on themWink
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Originally posted by britishmusicrocks britishmusicrocks wrote:

Thanks again everyone. When I get home later tonight, I will put a playlist together, and air a show of 'British Prog Rock' on Saturday at 7pm (CST). I will post the player links later on.
I've read through the forum, and it appears I created more of a discussion than I ever though would happen. My goal is to learn more about prog rock and create a block of prog rock music. When I created my radio station, I did more for myself and if others listen that great in my book.
 
As far as only playing British rock on my station - I love British Rock. Nothing against the other bands across the pond, But British musicians fascinate me.
 
I didn't want to create a debate for my topic, I just want to learn more about prog rock, and who better to help me dig a little deeper than this forum.
 
Thanks again and have a great weekend. Paul
I understand you. Although I listen music all through the world, there is something really special in the 1963-1979 Brit music, I also listen really many Brit artists from that period.
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Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

Just play:
The Revealing Science Of God
Close To The Edge
Gates Of Delirium

That's about an hour, right? Problem solved.


I would just change Gates of Delirium with Awaken, and that's perhaps what I would consider the quintesential Yes. Though Gates is just as wonderful, anyway.
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Thanks again everyone. When I get home later tonight, I will put a playlist together, and air a show of 'British Prog Rock' on Saturday at 7pm (CST). I will post the player links later on.
I've read through the forum, and it appears I created more of a discussion than I ever though would happen. My goal is to learn more about prog rock and create a block of prog rock music. When I created my radio station, I did more for myself and if others listen that great in my book.
 
As far as only playing British rock on my station - I love British Rock. Nothing against the other bands across the pond, But British musicians fascinate me.
 
I didn't want to create a debate for my topic, I just want to learn more about prog rock, and who better to help me dig a little deeper than this forum.
 
Thanks again and have a great weekend. Paul

Edited by britishmusicrocks - August 24 2018 at 17:16
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Just play:
The Revealing Science Of God
Close To The Edge
Gates Of Delirium

That's about an hour, right? Problem solved.
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

The guy will put together a show for himself ... I have no doubt about that ... but none of his choices and the song that follows will satisfy any of us, and we will end up dismissing him ... I will just as soon he did something completely different and surprise us ... but that scares you because you don't know your hits songs that he would not be playing. Are you really into "progressive music" if you are afraid to hear things you do not know what they are and so different that they shake your inner self?
Christ almighty are you for real? I beginning to think you are some sort of nonsense-generator made specifically for spewing out moronic assumptions about others you know nothing about. But who created you and why? Is there some sort of hidden research team behind this so called "moshkito" taking notes on how people respond maybe? Well their not gonna get any more info from me. And I'm embarrassed having wasted valuable time on this already.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

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The way you write your posts its you who is the competitive one. All your posts reeks of wanting to get across that you're best, deepest, smartest and most authentic listener... while the rest of just listen to what's popular. Its a shame that your self-obsessiveness prevents you from noticing that you're surrounded by people that loves music/art just as much and as deeply as yourself. 

You are grossly incorrect. I stated that he should get into the love of it, and the feel and reasons for the music coming up ... get into the spirit of the thing, is what I said.

Sadly, your comments are more about the less important side/parts of the write up and you totally miss out on the main and most important point.

AGAIN, and I'm sure your friend will agree, NONE OF THESE BANDS WOULD HAVE GOTTEN ANYWHERE, IF ALL THEY DID WAS LISTEN TO SOMEONE ELSE'S SUGGESTION ... and it is that independence, freedom and desire to do things differently that made them what we love so much today.

What is it, about "PROGRESSIVE", that you do not understand? It never was a top of the pops thing, although some things got huge (Roundabout/Lucky Man), the majority of the bands lived by their own feel and thoughts.

Why do you keep on going about this idea that individuality is not allowed today, because the audience will kill you? Prog and Progressive would be dead without it! I live for that artistic ideal ... your idea and opinion makes no difference to me. But you have a problem with someone knowing/feeling something totally different than what you know.

The guy will put together a show for himself ... I have no doubt about that ... but none of his choices and the song that follows will satisfy any of us, and we will end up dismissing him ... I will just as soon he did something completely different and surprise us ... but that scares you because you don't know your hits songs that he would not be playing. Are you really into "progressive music" if you are afraid to hear things you do not know what they are and so different that they shake your inner self?

Make sure you answer that properly, or your progressive spirit is just an idea that will be gone tomorrow for all kinds of reasons, of which the music is no longer meaningful! (... Wink ... besides on the other thread, the wife/significant other does not seem to like it!)

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^ You make no sense to me... because you make no sense. Most of the more or less contemporary bands I genuinely love has been reccomended to me by someone on these boards or from the reviews. My relationship to them I still a loving thing. Logan and I have exchanged countless reccomendations over the years and if that somewhat make our appreciation less "real" to you... I pity you. Btw: I've made countless evenings of five-hour specials weekly - all of them themed. But here's this guy who's run's an internet station wanting to have a weekly prog rock hour on Friday nights. As he is no expert he'd like to gain som input from this forum. Surely a good thing? Possibly a fun task or a challenge? No of course not, not for moshkito who seems to go out of his way to make the poor guy regret he ever asked. 

The way you write your posts its you who is the competitive one. All your posts reeks of wanting to get across that you're best, deepest, smartest and most authentic listener... while the rest of just listen to what's popular. Its a shame that your self-obsessiveness prevents you from noticing that you're surrounded by people that loves music/art just as much and as deeply as yourself. 
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

... Such as discover a great band he wasn't previously aware of and then play it on his radio show so that others will discover them too. I'm certain your hero on Space Pirate Radio discovered and played stuff that he once was recommended/suggested that he should check out. Anyone who just wants to discover and introduce others to some good music doesn't give a sh*t about how or in what order that happened.
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I'm pretty sure that Guy would deny this ... he went great lengths to listen to things before playing them (always did!) and never just "needled" most of his special show, and there might have been suggestions (we were roommates at the start), since it was his record collection and mine that fed huge parts of the show, along with anything new that could be found at Moby Disk and the other "import" record stores at the time over the LA area, although there were also specialty locations that included English comedy by the ton!

The "choices" made by me, or just about anyone else, did not always go very far, specially if Guy had a theme in mind for his show ... for example ... the "Guides of March", was an all Italian show that also featured various comedy bits and satires about Italians, and specially Fellini and Mastroianni! On a week with a birthday for Carl Jung, or Sigmund Freud, it was not going to be missed and comedy bits added to the fun.

The majority of DJ's out there, can not, and do not, do "themes", just a few songs with the same "thought/idea".

Wish I had my listing of the shows I did on the air around 2000 ... I, for the most part featured an artist for more than an hour or so, and only did 3 shows out of some 75 of them (all at least 2 hours long), that did not feature a band or an artist. The opening show was a variety of things, that could be considered "my favorites", but in all honesty, I do not have "favorites", since no music is in competition with any other music in my mind and body ... and this is the part most DJ's miss ... a show about "progressive" can not be a competitive thing ... it has to be a loving thing.


Edited by moshkito - August 23 2018 at 20:37
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Some mighty and sublime prog have been/is done by the Francophones but I must admit that the Anglo-Saxons are near unbeatable at it.
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Very true - but as the site is called www.britishmusicrocks.com - maybe a British theme is hinted at somewhat from a brand perspective!

However, if Barbu started a site called www.canadianmusicrocks.com site, I'd tune in! None of this French stuff though!
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Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

Solely British?

Which means no Sloche, Wigwam, Ange, Banco, Can, Focus, Rush, Tangerine Dream, Popol Vuh...

I certainly wouldn't listen to that.
 

I agree; a multi-national and multi-period selection would be far, far superior listen to a UK only selectionWink

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Solely British?

Which means no Sloche, Wigwam, Ange, Banco, Can, Focus, Rush, Tangerine Dream, Popol Vuh...

I certainly wouldn't listen to that.
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

DJ's are a dime a dozen ... all I suggested to the guy is ... MAKE A DIFFERENCE ... not be like everyone else, and for that to happen, suggestions from us are not going to make the difference ... 
A prog DJ aren't a dime a dozen and will make a difference. Paul can do whatever he likes with our suggestions. Such as discover a great band he wasn't previously aware of and then play it on his radio show so that others will discover them too. I'm certain your hero on Space Pirate Radio discovered and played stuff that he once was recommended/suggested that he should check out. Anyone who just wants to discover and introduce others to some good music doesn't give a sh*t about how or in what order that happened. 

-anyway hope the show will eventually include music from the rest of the world. Here's my hourlong suggestion trying to combine progressive rock from several angles both well known groups and more obscure ones... Just one "newish" tune but this was from top of my head... and I don't know large amounts of new UK-prog I dig. If I was a something of a prog-newbie I'd be blown away: 

Soft Machine - Hibou, Anemone and Bear
East of Eden - Northern Hemisphere
Curved Air - Young Mother
King Crimson - In The Wake Of Poseidon
Henry Cow - Half Asleep Half Awake
Gong - Master Builder
Principal Edwards Magic Theatre - Weirdsong Of Breaking Through At Last
Peter Hammill - Red Shift
Miasma And The Carousel Of Headless Horses - Manticore
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Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

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Come on Mosh, referring to anyone (particularly a new member, making a perfectly reasonable request) as 'Ridiculous and stupid' is harsh. You may have relevant experience and you are certainly entitled to your opinion but how about giving some examples of music rather than harsh and frankly, irrelevant to the topic criticism.. 

Unlike a lot of folks, not necessarily here, I was exposed to a lot of completely new material of all kinds since my early days, up to and including my own dad that was a pioneer scholar in one area of Literature that started in the California systems, but fell apart when my dad passed away. (Comparative Literature)

The example of Space Pirate Radio, is vastly important, however, not enough folks have any idea what it is, what it was, and what it provided. It was more than just a radio show, per se, and as Guy used to say, it was, sometimes, a ... foreign movie without the subtitles ... and it was heard a lot more than we all know.  Pretty much the same thing happened with my own father, whose efforts are chronicled in many Encyclopedia, and appreciated a lot more than the "fan fare" folks.

New or not, for me, is not the problem, and I'm sure the gentleman knows what he is doing and who he is, to feel criticized by my point,  as much as hoping to hear something different, which (in general) most radio stations can not do, and the Internet side of things is not any better .... just be on on par, aesthetically, with the soul of progressive music.

I'll tell you what is not my cup of tea. This was like so many radio stations looking for songs to play that were about ... a teacher, let's say ... so the DJ looks more cool than the audience that gave him the idea in the first place. AND THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE, BETWEEN SPACE PIRATE RADIO, and the rest of the music shows out there ... GUY was into the music and loved it (no one else would play Klaus Schulze is my bet!), and it showed ... the music was loved most of all! 

DJ's are a dime a dozen ... all I suggested to the guy is ... MAKE A DIFFERENCE ... and for that to happen, suggestions from us are not going to make the difference ... he has to love and appreciate the music, for it to have a positive effect to the listeners ... and in most radio this is hard to find!

Now, do you really want to know how PROGRESSIVE MUSIC got this far? Or if it doesn't matter, why not bury it and no one will know the difference? 

BE PROGRESSIVE ... and a leader in all this ... is what all the groups that we love were all about ... and so are we ... and while I do not wish to temper his thoughts and ideas, I would like to see him develop one that is strictly his own ... and if it were me, not a single suggestion would get touched. Heck, I will likely play THIRD EAR BAND and EDGAR BROUGHTON BAND, just for fun .... OORA! ... or as the lyric said:

Sitting, laughing at the mindless humanoids croaking in their swarm.
While recalling Omar Khayyam. How we changed there in the holy sun high on holding hands.
The pilot crashed with Rupert Brooke they blew together fast on other levels. 
He spoke, softly, opened by the wine. A father pushing fear and looking for redemption.
Someone hurry he thought as the waves rolled their way through concentration. 
It's all too much he seemed to want to say but could not make the necessary juncture.
How he loved the lady by my side. Rococo lady, daughter of the African the westernized.
He is searching for a hole to be in to make himself.
How we changed there in the holy sun high on holding on.
You might be different, I can read it in your sign,
You, you might be something, I can read it in your eyes.

Cheers!


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^ Cool. Maybe limit it to obscure British prog then. I don't think anyone needs introduction to Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, King Crimson etc unless it's something lesser known. Now THAT i'd be into :)

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