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    Posted: October 29 2020 at 19:25
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I'm still of the opinion that the biggest hurdle for all of us is getting past the networks offering incredible amounts of money for the TV rights, and the teams accepting it ... the downside of this is that STREAMING is being prevented by many teams ... and (for example) Manchester United, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Juventus not having the ability to show their game worldwide on streaming for a fee, in the end, is going to hurt the game. Same thing for baseball or football when the numbers of people you can get for a game will be way bigger than the folks sitting in the stands ... and the teams can not do it because of the TV rights.

Nothing like commerce preventing the development of something else ... in this case, streaming.

Not to mention that the record companies are making sure their bands do not stream shows before a CD/DVD is sold! But it also means that the lesser bands are out of luck with no outlet for their stream to be shown. The rights for mp3 broadcast, these days are getting prohibitive, but then it also was with Real Audio 20 years ago, beyond the 25 feeds.
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Haven't watched MLB since the final pitch of the '18 season, and then only 'cause I was out of town with work and stayed at a hotel with cable TV.  Used to love the game - played it straight thru college, then softball for 30 years, now retired with swollen ankles.  

To think of all the ways they're trying to shorten games without ever thinking to CUT THE F(#&#G commercials out every half inning, every time there's a pitching change, every time there's a mound visit, every time there's a slight delay on the field for any reason.....and those damn announcers - don't get me started!

Love the game but can't invest 200 bucks a month on cable to watch, nor do I have 5 hours to invest daily in following my Sox.  Mores the pity, man.  




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Rays... 2 in a row for the win?????

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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

 
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Well the virus is more under control generally in Europe than here where its become a political conspiracy theory

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I was about to post that ... here, the whole thing is about politics, not the virus ... to the point that they even have to fight about helping the public ... 

Heck, I just read that in Portugal they are injecting steroids directly into the lungs, and people are clear and gone in a day or two! And the USA? ... you have to get past Peace Hell before you see a doctor ... because all they hire is quacks and rats ... that went to medical school, but never took a course in medications and how to define/decide which to use! 

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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

More games cancelled.......Cards/Brewers. This 60 game season will turn into a 45 game pickup season.


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I'm guessing that most baseball players are not taking these things seriously ... and that the proper precautions are not taking place ... otherwise something like the EPL and Bundesliga would have also fallen apart with the number of cases ... and it hasn't!

Basketball will have the same issue ... as well as American football ... as I do not see that these folks take things seriously ... football specially is a problem since the players all play up close to each other and hit each other and pile up on cue! 


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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

^ You can blame California and NY for the mess........A concert in NY and the city knew nothing about it??? Hello permits have to be issued for concerts....LOL

MLB did not do a good job of installing best practices for the teams.....what did they think was going to happen.

I don't know what you have against California and NY, but the whole damned country is a freaking mess. The buck usually stops at the White House, or at least it used to.

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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

More games cancelled.......Cards/Brewers. This 60 game season will turn into a 45 game pickup season.

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I'm guessing that most baseball players are not taking these things seriously ... and that the proper precautions are not taking place ... otherwise something like the EPL and Bundesliga would have also fallen apart with the number of cases ... and it hasn't!

Basketball will have the same issue ... as well as American football ... as I do not see that these folks take things seriously ... football specially is a problem since the players all play up close to each other and hit each other and pile up on cue! 
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More games cancelled.......Cards/Brewers. This 60 game season will turn into a 45 game pickup season.
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Originally posted by johnobvious johnobvious wrote:

As a Tampa Bay Ray fan, this is all very frustrating since I feel they were/are set up to have a great season. I hope we can at make is though at least this truncated thing and have a post season but whoever wins it all will have an asterisk by their name, even though they will have to battle through 15 teams.
I think you are right, TB was all set....great lineup for sure!
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As a Tampa Bay Ray fan, this is all very frustrating since I feel they were/are set up to have a great season. I hope we can at make is though at least this truncated thing and have a post season but whoever wins it all will have an asterisk by their name, even though they will have to battle through 15 teams.
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^ You can blame California and NY for the mess........A concert in NY and the city knew nothing about it??? Hello permits have to be issued for concerts....LOL

MLB did not do a good job of installing best practices for the teams.....what did they think was going to happen.
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I guess the future of baseball is now in South Korea and Japan. Both started allowing fans back into the stadiums, though at partial capacity. KBO is playing its full 144-game schedule too. Too bad the handling of the pandemic in the U.S was such a disaster.
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I've watched the first four Detroit Tigers' games and I can say that I am glad that baseball is back...even the minor league variety played by the Tigers, but it is sort of surreal watching the games with all the empty seats.  They definitely need to do away with the fake clap tracks.  Watching the game last night and they are introducing the KC Royals and they are getting cheered.  I am sorry, but they would most likely have been booed if there had been a real crowd.  I hope that they can make it through the season, but I suspect that it is going to be difficult the way illnesses tend to make their way through a clubhouse and with all of the travelling, I can see it being spread throughout the entire group of teams that are playing each other in the three sections.
At least you have minor league variety.........The Mariners are a very good HS baseball team, from what I have watched, not just Seattle, its not great baseball being played right now. Which again is to be expected......I'm good with all the fake noises in the stadiums, I watch a lot of latin baseball (Mexico and others) and the noises are insane, blowing horns all game long. LOL
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What are your thoughts?

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I think the biggest issue and problem is the media ... that is STILL paying a huge amount of money and they are not getting a chance to display the wares on the stadia or have an announcer say something about the product.

All in all, the players are just wanting a part of the money that they deserve to get ... so someone gets 2 billion from the networks, and YOU DON'T WANT ANY OF IT? .... pure profit for the owner!

I think that the American "big name" sports, need a huge come down ... that would be football, baseball and basketball and even maybe hockey ... they (all) will not function correctly without the extra revenue incoming, which will make many of these teams a not very good investment for the next couple of years!

I do not believe that full stadiums are going to happen again in the next 2 years ... maybe! ... and all 4 of those sports are dragging their feet about streaming, because they are ALL tied to the networks with a long term contract ... and the TV networks ARE NOT going to let you out of those contracts, SINCE IT WILL HELP KILL THEIR TV AUDIENCE (for an internet audience instead!).

A lot of things are an issue ... and I'm not even sure I am hitting 10% of them ... but the players and owners will never really clarify all this stuff! There is obviously more money around than we know or at least a team or two would have filed for bankruptcy right now!
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I've watched the first four Detroit Tigers' games and I can say that I am glad that baseball is back...even the minor league variety played by the Tigers, but it is sort of surreal watching the games with all the empty seats.  They definitely need to do away with the fake clap tracks.  Watching the game last night and they are introducing the KC Royals and they are getting cheered.  I am sorry, but they would most likely have been booed if there had been a real crowd.  I hope that they can make it through the season, but I suspect that it is going to be difficult the way illnesses tend to make their way through a clubhouse and with all of the travelling, I can see it being spread throughout the entire group of teams that are playing each other in the three sections.

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What a mess...First week in and already Covid is a muck in the MLB. I am not surprised, after all the moanin about pay the MLB failed to install better measures.
The season needs to be cancelled, its only gonna get worse.
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Originally posted by Jeffro Jeffro wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

With millions of people without work, or those who had to take a pay cut to keep their job, I am pissed with the MLB players who refuse to take a pay cut to play half a season. Why not fire them all and let the minor league players play? Remember the 80's when they went on strike? Iv'e had enough of their primadonna attitudes. Empty stands may end professional sports as we know it. No revenue coming in = can't pay players, announcers, ground crew, etc. I say...about time.

What are your thoughts?


My thoughts? You blaming the players for this is dead wrong. 
So what is stopping them from playing? Contracts can be terminated any time. Where is the attitude that they want to play because it's fun?

Please excuse what I am about to say because I truly have no reason to get into an internet fight but that's an amazingly simplistic view and ignores everything that's been going on between the owners, MLB, and the players. Have you been following this drama since they started talking about playing again because it doesn't sound like you're following it closely enough

Regarding contracts, players can be released at any time but baseball contracts are guaranteed. That means the clubs would still have to pay the player who was just released. Let's say you have a guy signed to a five year contract and you're paying him 20 mil per year. Why would any team owner release that player when they would still have to pay that player? It makes no sense


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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by Jeffro Jeffro wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

With millions of people without work, or those who had to take a pay cut to keep their job, I am pissed with the MLB players who refuse to take a pay cut to play half a season. Why not fire them all and let the minor league players play? Remember the 80's when they went on strike? Iv'e had enough of their primadonna attitudes. Empty stands may end professional sports as we know it. No revenue coming in = can't pay players, announcers, ground crew, etc. I say...about time.

What are your thoughts?


My thoughts? You blaming the players for this is dead wrong. 
So what is stopping them from playing? Contracts can be terminated any time. Where is the attitude that they want to play because it's fun?
Well contracts may not be terminated at anytime, I don't think it is that easy. These are employment contracts that I am sure cover a lot of different scenarios. What is stopping them is just the same as any other union dispute....money. It's called professional sports for a reason, its a massive business. I don't think it is just the players, I don't think professional sports will end as we know it, for 2020 yes.
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