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dougmcauliffe ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 23 2019 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 3895 |
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Yeah I can agree the new album is really compressed and loud which is a shame because The Prelude Implicit is an extremely well produced album. They really could use Jeff Glixman on board, I have to listen at very low volume, the snare sounds like crap.
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Enchant X ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 31 2014 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 867 |
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I used Mp3gain to analyse what's wrong with this recording it peaks at 100.5 decibels ....Loudness wars killed the sound especially the drums, also its slightly distorted, I knew there was something I didn't like about it, my ears automatically tune out when the volume is so tightly compressed ,anything above 96 decibels and I have that reaction, higher than that it kills the dynamic range, It's been brick walled folks
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Online Points: 41737 |
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Gave the new album another listen the other day and enjoyed it quite a bit.
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axeman ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 13 2008 Location: Michigan, US Status: Offline Points: 235 |
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I'm a little surprised that I can't agree with the idea that if Livgren and Walsh aren't in the band anymore there is no point. I think that is a good point. I just can't agree, totally. It sounds like the current crew have done a good job of keeping the "Kansas sound" alive.
There is also another reason: the band may have never made it without Phil Ehart's drive. Phil was *the* guy showing up in people's offices, not taking "no" and selling the band. He even spent some time in England once he decided that prog-drumming was what he wanted to do and improve at. So from that perspective, it's Kansas as long as Phil wants to keep it running. I ended up really liking Throwing Mountains, anyway.
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Enchant X ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 31 2014 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 867 |
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iluvmarillion ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 09 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 3236 |
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You need to preface what you say with the words, "At this point of time". Time has a funny effect on people's taste in music. What you like one day changes the next day. Tastes never stay the same unless you're tone deaf.
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Rednight ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 18 2014 Location: Mar Vista, CA Status: Offline Points: 4807 |
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In a word, yes.
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"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
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Mormegil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 03 2010 Location: NE PA Status: Offline Points: 6535 |
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Nope -
They should keep doing what they enjoy, even if no one is listening.
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Enchant X ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 31 2014 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 867 |
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iluvmarillion ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 09 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 3236 |
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The jewel case CD should be around $24 -$30 (AUD) depending where you order it from within Australia (still in stage IV lockdown here in Melbourne).
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RaphaelT ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 17 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 1453 |
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No. Don't rush the band to retire just because they made an album that does not suit you. The next album may be great. Or this weak album may open yourself to you in other circumstances. And watch the band live. If they can still deliver the old material with passion, without feelings of repetitiveness and tiredness, why can't they provide other fans with joy of listening? Only unremovable repetitiveness and tiredness justify the retirement of artists. Unless they choose otherwise.
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yet you still have time!
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foregonillusions ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 25 2018 Location: Everywhere Status: Offline Points: 232 |
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I think it's only underwhelming if you think they were going to create something in the vein of SFA. Someone, possibly you, posted a poll before the latest album's release with answers related to how progressive/AOR would the album be. One of the choices was a mixture of AOR and progressive rock, favoring the former, and I think that pretty much sums it up. It's a decent album, and the first two songs and the instrumental are awesome, "The Song the River Sang" is a piece I wasn't expecting, and I'm quite pleased with it. If The Absence of Presence was anything like Yes' Heaven & Earth, then I would be more sympathetic. Also, Kansas is still a great live band. (They even play Song For America, and it's glorious!) I hope they are able to eventually come to Australia so you can see them as you would not be disappointed.
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 15293 |
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Now, now...
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Online Points: 41737 |
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Change (I was thinking of something else, sorry). It's the only Livgren album I have and listen to from time to time. Livgren had that AD band and then I did listen to a couple of his solo albums I lost interest TBH. Edited by Cristi - September 26 2020 at 12:13 |
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 16575 |
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Yeah, I figured that's who he meant. ;)
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progaardvark ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 49095 |
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I don't know what the situation is like in Australia for buying CDs/LPs or if you are able to listen to it online. Were you able to listen to it online before buying? $42 (AUD) seems like the price for a small box set. This is about $30 (US). I listened to it a couple weeks ago on this YouTube playlist: I think I would rate this around 3.70 out of 5. At that rating it will be on my list of things to get, but won't be a priority. Sometimes waiting a year or two, the prices drop.
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 15293 |
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Change, not Rage. And the songs therein qualify as both AOR & Christian rock.
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