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    Posted: November 12 2022 at 01:24
I really like The Flower Kings, but would you Adam & Eve it, I'd have a hard time telling one Flower Power album apart from another. I think my prog credentials have just gone Kaput, again! Embarrassed
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I always found Renaissance, besides in the 80s, to have albums that sound scarily alike.
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^ The ones with vocals tend to agree but the purely instrumental ones are different.
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I kind of hate to say but I'm going to say Steve Hackett. Probably not so much in his early career but later on. Most if not all of the later albums I've heard by him sound very similar imo. Still very good though.

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Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

Blackmore's Night, Dream Theatre, Tangerine Dream, and I also like their music a lot. In general, the whole Prog Metal genre sounds quite similar to me, specially the guitar solos.

DT definitely has a sound, I don't know enough about Blackmore's Night to comment on it.  But Tangerine Dream has over 100 releases.  Sure, one can tell that Phaedra and Rubycon are related. Many of their albums recorded next to each other sound related.  But there is no logical way to say that Zeit, Phaedra, Force Majeure, Tangram, Thief, Turn of The Tides, Underwater Sunlight, Mota Atma, and Purgatorio sound similar.  TD has just recorded too many different styles.  Most I like, some are Desert Island Disks and others well not so much.  That's why I always end up checking back in if I run into a style that doesn't suit me.  It will change.   

You need more TD! Big smile 


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Pink Floyd ..lets all give up on life and smoke drugs Wink

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I call BS.


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I call BS.

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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

However much this is true in terms of composition, it does completely ignore Greg Lake's and Carl Palmer's contribution, both of whom are essential. I am a massive ELP fan because they as a band were imperious and raised the bar. Progressive Rock Music is not Progressive Classical Music. They aren't the same thing.

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Agreed, that both Greg and Carl added to the whole thing, but I bet that was defined when they worked the piece together and were able to add breaks, stops, starts and other moments. That's (usually) a part of rehearsal and learning a new piece. Except in the new "progressive" things added today when it's so metronomic as to be very boring ... makes me want to say ... "Where's the Music?"

Progressive Rock Music is NOT Classical Music; however, it is very difficult to not see the parallels in their composition and their resolution to several themes within the piece. The only problem here is that "Progressive Rock Music" is a boring, formulaic and beat up useless Model T of a score and needs to die ... and we are not musically educated (not that I am either in terms of specific music terms) enough to even SEE the parallels and how they work and develop.

What is even more bizarre, is that the "definition" of Progressive Music, wants a guitar solo, and ELP did not have one and did not need one because Keith would do it all by himself. So, in this sense, even ELP does not fit into the "Progressive" design and definition.

I, too, have loved ELP from the first, and the first album I bought of theirs was "Pictures at An Exhibition" which I felt was a nice rendition and take of the original classical music piece. So, it is even weirder to see it being said that both Classical and Progressive are not "the same" when in essence, Keith was very much about Classical Music and did a lot of it, including in his days with The Nice. It's the same person ... and we must give him some credit for his musicianship and knowledge of music. I even, on occasion, think that both Greg and Carl were blown away for all the material, but in the end, they were able to color the ideas and the music beautifully ... and you and I will always agree on that!


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Just going to jump in here with my recent vendetta against Mr Beige Prog-by-numbers releasing the same album four times since 2020: Antony Kalugin.

Karfagen influence perhaps.
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However much this is true in terms of composition, it does completely ignore Greg Lake's and Carl Palmer's contribution, both of whom are essential. I am a massive ELP fan because they as a band were imperious and raised the bar. Progressive Rock Music is not Progressive Classical Music. They aren't the same thing.
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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

... I'd rather listen to the original ELP version of Tarkus to decide how good it is. As I see it, Rachel Flowers' version is a different piece of music and should be assessed as such. By using Rachel Flowers to extol the virtues of ELP's compositional skills, you are perhaps selling Rachel Flowers short.
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What you fail to see, in my book, is how a serious music student can get a good response from a teacher or anyone else. If Keith Emerson had taken the "piano score" to a teacher, or to us the public, he would have been boo'd, and told to go home. No one would have heard it at that time, because the appreciation for MUSIC had been replaced for a style that was about SHOWING us how good the music supposedly was, instead of the reality.

Keith used the instruments of the day ... to come up with his piece of music that otherwise would have been ignored. As to which sounds, he ended up using, may have had input from the other 2, but it is possible that he had already figured out which bit he wanted where in the amount of time for it.

Look ... it's really simple ... a timeless piece of music is always remembered and shown to have a life in different ways ... TARKUS has shown us that there were many musicians at that time (and today!) that were above the norm, and THEY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING. A little experimenting here and there, but in general, their presentation was no different than a different take on the piece by someone else 100 years later.

It's bizarre to me, that you still look at TARKUS as some sort of pop music song that was a hit, and can only be remembered if "fans" decide that it deserves to be approved as a masterpiece, for which they have no criteria, other than the fame content ... it's about the music, and you can't say that TARKUS does not live in Rachel's hands, and likely will in someone else's hands 50 years from now! Electronic or not is not the issue ... how the magic and mystery of the music comes out IS THE STORY!


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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

This is one reason why I (continually!) ask for some music to get UNPLUGGED. Because too much of it is hiding behind an effect that we think makes it better, and this is not the case! It fools the audience, instead!
 
I very strongly disagree with this. The overall sound is what we hear, effects and all, and is ultimately what appeals to us or not. By your reasoning, perhaps taking it to its logical conclusion, one should assess music by looking at its score. Why listen to the music when one can read the sheet to see that all the notes go to where they ought to go. You often mention Rachel Flowers' rendition of Tarkus as an indication of how good Tarkus is as a composition. I'd rather listen to the original ELP version of Tarkus to decide how good it is. As I see it, Rachel Flowers' version is a different piece of music and should be assessed as such. By using Rachel Flowers to extol the virtues of ELP's compositional skills, you are perhaps selling Rachel Flowers short.
 
 

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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

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I suspect you've misunderstood what he actually means by "the sound".

Hi,

Actually, I think you have misinterpreted the whole thing. There is only "one sound", not various in our imaginations. The thought is, immediately, where does it come from, and a lot of times you find that the structures are too close and similar for the whole thing to even possibly "sound" different, with 4 more effects (let's say!) to help it seem better.

You're getting fooled by publicity, and not the music!

What is weird is that what we are discussing is that so many bands repeated themselves as to make their whole creative output seem like sh*t! And I don't think it is! DT may have repeated themselves a bit too much, but on the whole, they are still good and strong, although the idea is still the same ... the guitar controls the rest of the music, ignoring the other instruments altogether!

This is one reason why I (continually!) ask for some music to get UNPLUGGED. Because too much of it is hiding behind an effect that we think makes it better, and this is not the case! It fools the audience, instead!
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:


Without wishing to flog a dead horse, to me, everything Opeth did between Orchid and Watershed sound more or less the same, although I'm quite sure, being an ardent fan of theirs, you'll tell me they are all quite different.

I can't say I'm an ardent fan, I do like progressive death metal Opeth every now and then. 
I more or less agree with what you say here, they created their own sound and stick with it for a while. Some of these albums are more inspired then others, a couple are better produced.

Yes, I was just using it as a simple example of familiarity. You listen to a band and if you like their sound, you tend to make the effort to immerse yourself in their discography. Admittedly, some band's sonic range can be quite extensive, while others are more uniform, but if you love a band and give them enough listens, then even their music constructs start to separate themselves after a while, so each album becomes relatively distinct, with styles, textures and tones revealing themselves after a while. I guess, if you really can't stand Rush and you only give a few of their albums a cursory listen, then even they can just sound 'all the same'!  Smile 
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I have seven albums by Rush and seven albums by Dream Theater, but they do sound very similar to me, if not the same. Smile

By the way, I do like Opeth's Pale Communion album, even though most of their early albums sound the same to me. Smile



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