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Mormegil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 03 2010 Location: NE PA Status: Offline Points: 7998 |
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Red and Dead Can Dance for this list.
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Welcome to the middle of the film.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38651 |
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I usually go by released date other than with archival releases, often I try to recognise both. I would like both things to be very visible (like on the main artist discography page) and searchable. I have visited Gnosis, but not for many years except very briefly. I will check it out, thanks. This site would be incredibly complicated if it was mine with so many features and a lot of redunancy. It might be very ugly. It might be rather like the Homer Simpson designed automobile of music sites. |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Mellotron Storm ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 27 2006 Location: The Beach Status: Offline Points: 14506 |
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It's an interesting topic. Do you go by release date or recording date? Gnosis is a site you probably have been on. All their dates are recording dates. So archival stuff goes where it should. ![]() |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38651 |
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^ It is incredible.
By the way, dates do matter to me and for archives it is significant. On a side-note, commonly recorded dates are much more important to me than released dates with many archival releases (not released until much later). I wish we could easily search PA's albums by recorded date (and searching PA albums by year too could be easier and improved too with broader scope -- and I would like to be able to search PA by month of release, or even month and day if that info is available). Edited by Logan - May 26 2025 at 08:03 |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Mellotron Storm ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 27 2006 Location: The Beach Status: Offline Points: 14506 |
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I really like the album cover as well for Masal. But man what an incredible piece of music. Originally released on vinyl so it was part one and part two of Masal, whereas my cd has it in one long 40 something minute song.
I would have been proud to have gotten him on this site too. A special record. Anyway I wasn't disputing anything here as far as the release date goes, I just found the information interesting for my own personal notes. |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38651 |
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Regarding Masal, thanks John, I was using the Awesome Prog date since I made my list there. By the way, that was one of my favourite additions I was involved with on the Eclectic team when it was myself and Ricochet. Avestin suggested it as I recall. I used to listen to that album a lot. Anyway, I do have editing rights at AP so I might change the year there later when I can research and firmly establish the date (I have changed quite a few). I would rather it be more wrong at that site by someone else's hands than more right (i.e. closer to the proper date but still wrong) by my hands. The years that matter more still to me are earlier ones like the 60s. Like imagine if we all got it wrong somehow and instead of In the Court of the Crimson King being released in 1969 it was released years earlier... :) What often is more interesting to me than release date is recording date and form looking it up now, Masal was recorded in July of 1982 (that year I do recall for when it was recorded).
I knew you were going outside of your favourites. And like me, we both tend to like to list that which we care about, and with you, what often was in rotation as I recall (an interesting and systematic approach to listening). I sometimes like to do ones not based on my favourites, it can be interesting to figure out how one is going to determine which ones to cover. I have done ones based on charts, or based on the first names to spring to my mind whether I like them or not. I find it fun to come up with different approaches, and experiment a bit, and hopefully do something bit different from any others who have made polls. And it can be nice to know I am not just doing many of the same old names I've covered in polls here many times over the years. I like Yog Sothoth, Bondage Fruit (of course as it's in my list) and Gunesh Emsemble (listened to them the other day) a lot. Edited by Logan - May 25 2025 at 21:57 |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Mellotron Storm ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 27 2006 Location: The Beach Status: Offline Points: 14506 |
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My picks
Wyatt Cos Bondage Fruit Jean Paul Prat Area |
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Mellotron Storm ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 27 2006 Location: The Beach Status: Offline Points: 14506 |
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On my polls I have been including albums I haven't even heard. This is something I've never done before, always including my favourites only for the most part.
So for 1984 I didn't include my favourites like Yog Sothoth, Rascal Reporters, Gunesh Ensemble, Uppsala and Bandhada. For 1994 Landberk, Par Lindh Project, Bondage Fruit, Psychotic Waltz and Purple Overdose. |
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Mellotron Storm ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 27 2006 Location: The Beach Status: Offline Points: 14506 |
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The one album that jumped out at me was Masal. Mainly because of the year you have it in of 1984. I looked it up and I have it at 1982. Prog Archives has it at 1982. I checked Discogs who has it at 1984. Hmmm. My cd has two dates on the back cover. 1995 because it is a re-issue from Musea from that year, but above that 1982. Hmmm. So thankfully the re-issue I have also has very detailed liner notes.
If you can believe the liner notes this was recorded and done in 1982. But not released until early 1983 on Stand By Records, a short lived label. And a small quantity at that. Musea would do it right in 1986. I have this in my "best of" Zeuhl section. So I have switched it to 1983 but regardless this album would be my number one or at least top three in '82, '83 or '84. |
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Saperlipopette! ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Offline Points: 12949 |
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That's ok too:). I love them, but I do prefer The Rotter's Club. |
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Big Sky ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 24 2022 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1082 |
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Greg, Yes, Weather Report would be there although, Return to Forever's "Where Have I Known You Before" would take top spot. Stanley Clarke's self titled album, Mahavisnu Orchestra's "Apocalypse" and The Eleventh House with Larry Coryell would be on the list. "Crosswinds", although not at the level of Billy Cobham's previous album "Spectrum" would be there too. Prog would have the usual suspects from 74: Yes, KC, Genesis, Gentle Giant, Camel, Supertramp. I would also add Kansas's debut and Focus' "Hamburger Concerto." Edit: From your longer list in the link I counted 12 albums that I am in agreement with you. You have the usual suspects and add ELO and Morricone. Edited by Big Sky - May 25 2025 at 12:59 |
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15493 |
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I'm actually into this kind of thing, yet find Hatfield strangely unappealing (given how much I love for example National Health). |
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Jared ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 06 2005 Location: Hereford, UK Status: Offline Points: 20747 |
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Yet I love Colosseum and Mahavishnu, esp the first three... yet simply can't get into anything Canterbury except Caravan, the Khan album & some Hillage. |
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Enchant X ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 31 2014 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 933 |
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Saperlipopette! ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Offline Points: 12949 |
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^No one's gonna shoot you down for not enjoying Hatfield. You never struck me as someone who was into the Jazz Rock-fusion sound from the Canterbury Scene anyway, so its hardly surprising.
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Jared ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 06 2005 Location: Hereford, UK Status: Offline Points: 20747 |
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TD > KC > Hamill is all I can really vote for here...
I know I'm going to be shot down when I say this, but I really have tried Hatfield, I've really wanted to like it, but it doesn't do much for me... |
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38651 |
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^ Janko Nilovic is great.
I'm sure they do diverge, and be nice to know where they converge (presenting longer lists can help with that). In PA's jazz rock fusion category I really like Julian Priester's Love Love, Arti E Mestieri's Tilt, Eberhard Weber's The Colours Of Chloë, Miles Davis' Big Fun and Get Up With It, Bennie Maupin's The Jewel in the Lotus, Perigeo's Genealogia, Terje Rypdals' Whenever I Seem To Be Far Away, Placebo's Placebo, Kraan's Andy Nogger, Eddie Henderson's Inside Out.... Out of PA, I adore Janko Nilovic's Rythmes contemporains, Mandingo, and Bobby Hutcherson's Cirrus... What are some of your favourite fusion favourites for 1974? I'm guessing Weather Report might be in there. By the way, before I was thinking I was just going to work with non-poll lists because it is interesting I think when we can compare each other's yearly lists (see what we have in common, if applicable). Here is my top 59 at Awesome Prog (wonder how many albums you might appreciate there): https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa/aoty-1974/users/Logan The order often matters little, by the way, but I often will favour that which I have been more recently listening to and what just seems to better fit me most currently.. Would love to see your lists. ![]() Edited by Logan - May 25 2025 at 01:44 |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Hrychu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2013 Location: poland? Status: Online Points: 5944 |
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I appreciate the inclusion of Janko Nilović. His output is often criminally overlooked.
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15493 |
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Rock Bottom - Red - Caution Radiation Area - Faust IV - Selected Ambient Works Volume II
Could as well have voted for Phaedra. Helium is good but not quite up there. Edited by Lewian - May 24 2025 at 18:16 |
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Big Sky ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 24 2022 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1082 |
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King Crimson: Red
Greg, much to like in 1974 in both the Fusion and Prog world, but obviously our tastes diverge on what those are. Edited by Big Sky - May 24 2025 at 17:50 |
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