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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 18084 |
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I have been going to live shows/concerts since I was about 14. I'm old now, and still the spousal unit and I still go to live shows.
Live shows are the best....Regarding AI, I am more of the thought that its krapp for the music industry. At least right now in how it is being used. If AI disappeared it would not phase me one bit. |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: In repose. Status: Offline Points: 38986 |
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^ Classic things like Hendrix's Band of Gypsys, the Allman Bros live at Fillmore, Led Zep's The Song Remains the Same, the Woodstock recordings, Cream's Live Cream and some others are some things that I was very into as a teenager in the 80s.
The spectacle of the show can be very off-putting to me, as well as the rowdiness of audiences. Yahoo types commonly bother me. I grew up attending classical concerts mostly with my parents and that does feel more dignified and as a reserved person to me loud and rowdy behaviour alienates me.. I can find the audience very distracting when at events. That said, sometimes I can find loud and showy fun. I enjoy much punk music which can be very in your face (even punch you in the face). I go see more jazz concerts than rock. Most live rock seems to really annoy me (the band, the music, the attitudes, the audience...). I often have preferred the studio stuff as well. Just depends. I still most turn to studio albums for my music listening. Live can be so electrifying and I can enjoy the interaction of the band with the audience. I went to concert recently and the interaction was totally cringe. Just cause I really it, but with no video footage to go with it, here is Swans' Blood Promise off its live album Swans Are Dead: |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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While some bands raise the bar on live albums---some examples being the Allmans Fillmore, Zeppelin Song soundtrack, Grateful Dead, Yessongs---I will confess that I generally prefer the clarity and precision of the studio album most of the time. The studio album on its own is a beautiful thing, a perfect little package of art for young ears.
I also think spectacle of "the show" has replaced true musical appreciation for many popular rock bands, which I find unfortunate. That said, couple nights ago I watched a live clip by a band called Goose. The clip had Trey from Phish as the special guest, and they just wailed on forever. It was great. It was a gig about the music and nothing else. No pyro, no jumping around and showboating, just great musicians standing in one place playing amazing stuff. Billy Strings is another artist whose emphasis would seem to be in the right place. |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: In repose. Status: Offline Points: 38986 |
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Quite something to see that Talk talk performance which I was unfamiliar with (not watched it in full yet) and I have enjoyed the other vids you posted. Kraan's first live album is one of my favourites and did not know Tournee. I'd be interested to know how Agitation free and Colosseum live are now. Agitation Free's Last (released in 1976) is a very fine live album.
I really appreciate those acts where each performance is quite unique and where the lives differ from studio versions. Some definitely sound better with the studio recordings and some of course just try to replicate the studio versions. Somethjng with, say, Fishmans, that I like is that each performance of a a piece I have heard has significant differences, and they would improvise on their works in preparation for performances, expand on them, and evolve them. I like variation and variations on themes. here are some other things I enjoy: Shared this first Vanishing Twin one more than once here (love the groove, love the band): Vanishing Twin - Cryonic Suspension May Save Your Life (Pensiero Magico Live Session) Vanishing Twin - Telescope & Floating Heart (Pensiero Magico Live Session) Radiohead - There, There Live at Glastonbury (2003) Edited by Logan - 20 hours 35 minutes ago at 07:38 |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Foals get me every time on stage, even on video. Here's a very early one, not yet quite so audience commanding as they became later, but with a very charming live sound full of human imperfection yet almost perfect.
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Early September I'm going to see Colosseum and Agitation Free live. No idea how they are these days with very different line-ups from the early days, but I'm very curious.
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Yeah, live music is better. I wasn't aware of the PIL show, nice find, although I've got to say that I found them sharper in earlier incarnations (only heard some 10 minutes of the show yet but I mean other things I heard of them after 2000).
Here's Talk Talk's legendary Montreux show. They were still in their pop phase before their sensational last two albums, but this is so good (anyway). Kraan's first Live album is very well known, much less so the second one, Tournee, which is pretty much as great. They're such a good live band. (Unfortunately I can't find live videos from that tour.) While I'm at it, here's Kraan bassist Hellmut Hattler's solo project live; they have a marvellous live double album from around that time. |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: In repose. Status: Offline Points: 38986 |
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John Lydon of Public Image Ltd and The Sex Pistols has referred to the authenticity of the live experience. It already was bad enough with things like autotune, but With the rise of AI, I'm concerned about there being much less authenticity in music and writing. Of course there has been studio "trickery" for ages which I can appreciate and I am not against lots of technology when it comes to making/producing, mixing and recording music... And of course some live albums are more authentic to the live experience than others and some concerts employ more "not live" effects and recordings than others.
I tried experimenting with AI music and the results were humorously cliche and also sadly better than I would have done in various ways, methinks (I appreciated Rick Beato's recent video on that topic). I loathe what's happening with AI, but I digress. I have been finding myself enjoying live music much more over the past few years even if not actually seeing the acts live, but instead listening to recorded performances. I've seen a number of acts during the summer at "free" concerts and am most looking forward to seeing Stereolab in October. Magma has been one of my past highlights and my favourite "rock" concert was Spinal Tap in 1992. I've seen lots of classical, jazz and blues music live. I have not been attending many concerts other than free things for many years and now try to get out more. The live release that I have been the most enamored with this year has been Fishmans' 98.12.28 Otokotachi no wakare, a release that I have talked about and shared a lot at PA (I tend to favour Fishmans live work over studio). I made a list of some of my favourites (there are many more that I could add by Magma, and many others, but the 20 there are ones that have been exciting me of late) at Rate Your Music. Fishmans, Portishead, Swans, Ciśnienie, Magma, Bjork, Boris, Anna von Hausswolff, Cardiacs and Tangerine Dream are some of the representatives. I really dig many 90s concerts, but of course something like Woodstock had so much to offer (adored Santana there). I mentioned John Lydon at the beginning, and PiL's 2013 concert at Glastonbury Festival is the last live performance I have seen. Rather different from my usual fare, but I always liked PiL, and I really like Lu Edmonds guitar-work. Here's a very nice version of Sigur Rós' Popplagið (Live in Reykjavík) that I first heard not long ago. Please mention any concerts you have enjoyed and/or are looking forward to, your favourite live albums, general thoughts on live music etc. |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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