Zeuhl Open Discussion

OrionCrystalIce wrote: I want to get into some Zeuhl and have been trying to figure out which album to pick up....   I'm going to ask an oddly-specified question.... do any of these bands have anything that sounds like Devil Doll? Because as I read more and more descriptives, it seems to remind me a lot of 'The Girl Who Was Death', which I got rid of... not because it was odd, but the mood simply annoyed me and I felt it was disjointed even for the style. So that's what I DON'T want. I would like to venture into the very darkest the style has to offer, however.....so what would that be? '1313'? 'Kohntarkosz'? Right now I'm at a toss up between those two...

I want to get into some Zeuhl and have been trying to figure out which album to pick up....

 
I'm going to ask an oddly-specified question.... do any of these bands have anything that sounds like Devil Doll? Because as I read more and more descriptives, it seems to remind me a lot of 'The Girl Who Was Death', which I got rid of... not because it was odd, but the mood simply annoyed me and I felt it was disjointed even for the style. So that's what I DON'T want. I would like to venture into the very darkest the style has to offer, however.....so what would that be? '1313'? 'Kohntarkosz'? Right now I'm at a toss up between those two...

Thanks Ghandi 2, I'll go listen to that in a sec. Weird that no one replied to us, I guess they don't want any zuehl converts this week :)

progressive wrote: Many aren't appeald by Magma's Üdü Wüdü, but why, why, why, why, why, o-why? Tell me. I like it (partly, but in a hard way - partly very much). Too avantgarde? No. Not "avantgarde". And why not to be avantgarde? Could it be avantgarde if everyone liked it - no. Magma (not all, but most of it), Ruins (not all the punk parts), and Dün are amazing, and other zeuhl. It's very progressive, it's emotional, it's crazy. Oh, the drums, and what bass lines, and the high female vocals with low (and high:)) male growling, and the imaginated world (not the main idea), and the symphonism, heavier than anything and happy parts, aah. Though, Happy Family hasn't mesmerized me. .

 I'll Tell ya why. That horrid singing. I've always assumed all Magma was like that though. It is the most pretentious singing I have ever been offended by. To me it's the equivalent of bad acting. There may be nothing technically wrong with the vocals but he tries to hard to be scarey. Its like he's screaming "Oh look at me I am dark and forboding". Its way oversung. Like a child pretending to be a ghost. Anyway, that's why I dont like it. And of course those are only my opinions, I didnt mean to state them as fact.

 Now on to my question... Is this type of overdramatic playacting style of singing done by all Zeuhl groups? I'm asking because the music intrigues me but there is no way I'm shelling out for another Magma album but I would like to try others. Dun maybe, they've come up in the thread a lot. Better yet are there any instrumental Zeuhl albums?

 Thanks for your time.

Tonight, I have been listening to MAGMA'S UDU WUDU and I can appreciate it alot more now.  This time, I listened to it on my DVD player connected to my old television set and so the sound was thinner and the treble and bass were better balanced.  My CD player doesn't do justice to it with its excessive bass quality.  I am pleased that I bought Udu Wudu now.

Syzygy wrote: eugene wrote: Don't think Art Zoyd got anything to do with Zeuhl     Art Zoyd toured with Magma and some musicians have played with both bands. Their albums up to Phase IV have a strong Zeuhl influence, although this is less noticeable on more recent releases. They're considered Zeuhl on the Ork Alarm website, as are Univers Zero.

Sean Trane wrote: eugene wrote: Sean Trane wrote:   The groups I would avoid in Zeuhl are :   Runaway totem >> derivative , and increasingly sampled music as album go by     What album(s) you've got in mind?? I love their Tep Zepi, but not very much impressed by Zed (only two albums I've heard) "Derivative" - ? - from who ???   And sometimes I doubt this band is Zeuhl....         Runaway Totem is definitely derivative of Magma. I have Zed at home and heard Tep Zepi and rented from the library the last album which is full of sampled instruments   As for Art Zoyd, their classic music sound (I speak of their 70's and early 80's albums) is very similar to Univers Zero, which gives a definite RIO genre, but if you listen closelu to AZ and UZ, and compare to Magma, you will see the obvious influences

Cheesecakemouse wrote: I cna't find any online stores that deal with Eskatons 4 Visions or Magma's Christian Vander Wurdah Itah are those two CDs out of print or something?

Wayside Music has Wurdah Itah in stock for $16. Highly recommended, dependable vendor that I've been using for years. Unfortunately, the CD issue of 4 Visions is on the Swedish Ad Perpetuam Memoriam label, which is long-defunct and all their releases are long out of print. There have been some rumors that Soleil Zeuhl might eventually obtain the rights to it and reissue it again, but I'm not holding my breath.

Bug

Edited by Syzygy - June 14 2006 at 08:56

eugene wrote: Sean Trane wrote:   The groups I would avoid in Zeuhl are :   Runaway totem >> derivative , and increasingly sampled music as album go by     What album(s) you've got in mind?? I love their Tep Zepi, but not very much impressed by Zed (only two albums I've heard) "Derivative" - ? - from who ???   And sometimes I doubt this band is Zeuhl....

Edited by Sean Trane - June 14 2006 at 07:35