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MadcapLaughs84
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Topic: Opinion on Jazz-Fusion Posted: December 02 2006 at 18:31 |
I love Fusion, for me it's the proggiest genre of all.
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fuxi
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Posted: December 02 2006 at 17:28 |
avestin wrote:
It is bands like the ones mentioned below that make me really like this "genre" so much (not always strictly fusion, but always with it in the music
John Abercrombie, Kenso, Pat Metheny Group, Jean Luc Ponty, Return to Forever, among others....
| Not forgetting (the electric) Bruford, Brand X, Kazumi Watanabe, Gary Burton, Eberhard Weber, Weather Report, Herbie Hancock and Christian McBride!
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Chus
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Posted: December 02 2006 at 17:16 |
superprog wrote:
some of it is sooooo w**ky its great!!!! ahahahah....Chick Corea Elektric Band anyone? |
I especially love Chick Corea's latin jazz outfits
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MusicForSpeedin
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Posted: December 02 2006 at 17:07 |
micky wrote:
wow... in the vast minority of those who don't 'like' it. Really doesn't excite me.. but it doesn't repulse me either.
voted I don't mind it....
I'd rather listen to Brubeck anyday....
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I agree about the Brubeck.
I love jazz therefore I love jazz fusion.
I think jazz is just a progressive as all of the other music on this site.
Thelonious Monk, Miles Davis, Ornette Coleman
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Sasquamo
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Posted: December 02 2006 at 16:19 |
lucky_man123 wrote:
THIS GENRE CAME FROM GOD.
With Geniouses like Davis, Trane, and McLaughlin, the Genre was sure to succeed. The raw energy, the musical presence, and incessant funkyness (I think so) sell it for me.
I actually used the *ITCHES BREW sessions for a Science Movie Soundtrack last year. The teacher asked me how he could get the soundtrack. |
John Coltrane jazz fusion?
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avestin
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Posted: December 02 2006 at 12:36 |
Love it!
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Spacemac
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Posted: December 02 2006 at 12:34 |
Like it very much
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Asyte2c00
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 20:54 |
Have Three Mahavishnu albums, thats about it, but like what I hear
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lucky_man123
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 20:51 |
THIS GENRE CAME FROM GOD.
With Geniouses like Davis, Trane, and McLaughlin, the Genre was sure to succeed. The raw energy, the musical presence, and incessant funkyness (I think so) sell it for me.
I actually used the *ITCHES BREW sessions for a Science Movie Soundtrack last year. The teacher asked me how he could get the soundtrack.
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micky
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Posted: September 29 2006 at 20:57 |
wow... in the vast minority of those who don't 'like' it.
Really doesn't excite me.. but it doesn't repulse me either.
voted I don't mind it....
I'd rather listen to Brubeck anyday....
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Sasquamo
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Posted: September 29 2006 at 20:39 |
I prefer the more traditional jazz to fusion and jazz-rock, but from the small amount of fusion I've heard (Steve Smith, Dave Weckl, Victor Wooten--is he really fusion?), I like it. And why isn't my vote showing up?
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Bilek
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Posted: September 29 2006 at 07:33 |
Andrea Cortese wrote:
Like it (sometimes a lot as for Birds of Fire) but as for Raffaella, never fallen in love.
The only album I really love is Romantic Warrior for its "symphonic" mood, I think...
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You should check out other Mahavishnu releases, then... Their debut, live album Between Nothingness and Eternity, as well as its later released studio version Trident (plus 3 more pieces), and two works with actual symphonic orchestras ( Apocalypse & Visions of the Emerald Beyond) may satisfy your appetite for symphonic fusion
btw, Zappa's Hot Rats is also a spectacular work in a similar vein...
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Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
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Dick Heath
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Posted: September 29 2006 at 07:00 |
Do I take you mean the WHOLE of jazz fusion, including Indo-jazz, Arabo-jazz, hiphop jazz, drum'n'bass jazz, nu.fusion, jazz funk, etc. as well as jazz rock, rockjazz (including brass rock)??
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: September 28 2006 at 16:12 |
Like it (sometimes a lot as for Birds of Fire) but as for Raffaella, never fallen in love.
The only album I really love is Romantic Warrior for its "symphonic" mood, I think...
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proger
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Posted: September 28 2006 at 16:05 |
I Like it. but I dont like show-offs like greg howe and all that.
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...live for tomorrow...
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superprog
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Posted: September 28 2006 at 06:38 |
some of it is sooooo wanky its great!!!! ahahahah....Chick Corea Elektric Band anyone?
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S Lang
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Posted: September 28 2006 at 06:21 |
cuncuna wrote:
I don't like it. Too much instrument skill show and too little thought about the meaning. Sometimes, it sounds like a cultural collage for elevators, disgracing cultures and elevators. |
Instrumental music can be of exceptional value. The solos, even some riffs express emotions better than music sang in words.
I am not sure if you've made your point in respect of lack of vocals, though?
The absolute devotion in say, John McLaughlin's solos is hard to deny. Many others too, have managed to create feeling through improvisation. Would Jazz qualify?
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Logan
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Posted: September 27 2006 at 13:49 |
I love an awful lot of Jazz-Fusion. It's certainly one of my favourite genres. Speaking as a Canadian, I think Quebec has really excelled at this genre (as have the French, it's a Francophone thing...). I consider Canada's music scene (read Quebec really as that's where it's most at) to be strongest in the Jazz-Fusion and Avant prog departments. Shame I grew up in Prog-light British Columbia.
I believe that much of the best music at this site falls under Jazz-Fusion. But then I love rock and I love jazz. Fuse them; bliss.
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Jimbo
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Posted: September 27 2006 at 13:29 |
S Lang wrote:
Jazz Rock (European) and Fusion (US) are markedly different.
The first includes Mahavishnu, Soft Machine, Nucleus, Bruford, Brand X, Pierre Moerlen's Gong etc. whilst the latter is more of sophisticated elevator music performed by Spyro Gyra, Grover Washington Jr. Frank Gambale (an Australian), Scott Henderson, etc. |
Good point. I absolutely love Mahavishnu, Soft Machine, Bruford etc, but most of the US bands such as Spyro Gyra, Weather Report and to a lesser extent Return To Forever tend to bore me. It's just a question of preference though, there's nothing wrong with them per se.
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Jeff Schu
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Posted: September 27 2006 at 13:12 |
I absolutely Love Jazz Fusion!!! I can easily go a week straight listening to it.
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