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    Posted: December 07 2006 at 14:33
If you're looking for a good cross-section and are not above buying compilations, I highly recommend Stars Die: The Delirium Years, a superb two-disc retrospective that covers all of their material up to, but not including, Stupid Dream.  Their last two albums, In Absentia and Deadwing, contain themes present in these earlier recordings, but they are presented with a much more emphasis on heavy distortion and alternative rock (given Steve Wilson's growing interest in undergroung metal like Meshuggah and Opeth).  But yeah, Stars Die if you're into the space-rock stuff, the last two if you're into modern prog metal (Opeth, but like someone else said, minus the growls).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2006 at 09:50
In Absentia, to my ears, displays all of their influences without pretension and in a very entertaining way.  Deadwing is a real departure in that they made music on that album that can only be called Porcupine Tree sounds.  From what I've heard of their earlier stuff the addition of their most recent drummer has made a real difference in their dynamics.  He is exemplary.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2006 at 09:10
Porcupine Tree maybe mix King Crimson, Pink Floyd (harmony & sometimes guitar solo), Supertramp (very rarely Steven Wilson's vocal), Art Of Noise (Richard Barbiei - keyboards effects & rhythmics), plus psycho-trans-fusion improvisations. But, first, excellent unique sound! And Porcupine Tree not metal.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2006 at 23:38
Originally posted by mattmacneil mattmacneil wrote:

are they hard metal? like prog metal? do they have double pedals and crazy distortion guitar? if not, can you relate them to another band?

    

Take for example what is going on in Europe and North America as far as a mainstream rock music goes. Porcupine Tree is a quality version of all this, incorporating numerous rock, metal, psychedelic trends frequently.

They fit in, yet they are easily recognizable within seconds of play. It has to be this way, otherwise everyone wouldn't rave about them and so on.

And as far as comparing bands goes, Porcupine Tree as I said sounds like their own band. In fact, I've found a load of groups with similar sounds (Borrowing styles, essentially). KingBathmat and Riverside for example. Porcupine Tree seems to be the largest group of this style.
    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2006 at 23:13
It's "prickly" metal.  Tongue

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2006 at 21:18
For the past couple of years, I was searching for the weirdest, extreme music. I discovered some weird musicians, Tom Waits, Dr John, NIN, Kraftwerk, Residents, Zappa, Eno, Godspeed, Sigur Ros, KMFDM, Boards of Canada, Ruins, etc.
But when it came prog metal, everybody try to convince me to like Dream Theater and I always hate it. Cheesy voice with a blend of Rush and Metallica, mix with keys that often seems out of place. So I always hate prog metal. until I discover Porcupine Tree. The guy have an ok voice, but it seems true. No emotional fake. Catchy lyrics like Genesis. And the instruments seem all in place.
Deadwing is really good.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2006 at 20:46
PT's music has definitely continued to evolve, less psychedelic and more of a heavier sound.

Steve Wilson has a lot of different outlets for his music.  I am listening to an I.E.M. album right now which is more psychedelic or kraut rock sounding.  He has Bass Communion for all of the ambient stuff he really seems to like.  No-Man and Blackfield have the more pop sound to them.  After seeing his latest concert and hearing what is to be coming up on his next album in early 2007, it is quite heavy - much like the In Absentia and Deadwing albums.  That is what we can expect short term.  Long term, who knows?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2006 at 20:32
Before I got into Porcupine Tree I hear them described as a mix of Radiohead and Pink Floyd, but when I listened to In Absentia I was kind of disappointed and confused. It didn't sound like either of those bands. Now they are pretty much my favourite band, and while the early stuff is very Floyd-ish, from Stupid Dream on they really can't be classified. I think the best way to put it is that they make artistic and complex mainstream music, with some occasional progressive tendencies.
 
The thing that I love most about Porcupine Tree is that I never like all of their stuf at once... some days I will find Signify an absolute masterpeice and other days find it kind of bland, and some songs I didn't like for months until one day they just clicked with me (Start of Something Beautiful, Even Less). Even if they stopped making music I would still be discovering new things in their work.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2006 at 20:18
Porcupine Tree Is "Porcupine Tree music"
As Steven said in an interview.............

That is on de rockpalast cd.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2006 at 19:59

Porcupine Tree is very hard to compare to other bands for me at least. I think Steven put it best when he said they make "Porcupine Tree music".

As for the heavy part, discounting parts of Deadwing and In Absentia, they have been a fairly mellow band. They shifted from an experimental phase to a more psychedelic sound, then a more mainstream poppish sound, and now it seems they are just going to continue getting heavier.

I do remember though that seeing them live, we went crazy on the heavy section of Arriving Somewhere But Not Here, what a riff!
When the world is sick
Can't no one be well
But I dreamt we were all
beautiful and strong

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2006 at 18:54
^^ The above is a good explanation. Bands they sound similar to, (bands that sound simalar to them): Opeth (no growling though), PF, Nine Inch Nails, KC, Tool, The Beatles, Frank Zappa, Oceansize, Anathema, Riverside and Rush.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2006 at 17:43
Originally they sounded like a slightly more trancey electronic pink floyd. Since then theyve evolved and their four latest albums are very much alternative rock occasionally similar to radiohead or recent anathema.
Their latest album is the only one i would consider borderline metal, but even then its very rare, more like hard rock. If you want to hear the metal side i would listen to 'Shallow' off Deadwing.
No double pedals, but since the beginning theyve had a large amount of crazy distortion.

I would compare them to pink floyd, radiohead, anathema and the electronic noise of the mars volta.

I would recommend Deadwing (their latest) to anyone who enjoys both psychadelic rock and progressive metal. I am yet to meet in person anyone who doesn't enjoy porcupine tree. The Sky Moves Sideways and In Absentia are also highly recommended.

If it helps at all, i love porcupine tree a lot, but my favourite bands are Opeth and Mastodon, so this information is coming from someone who very much loves heavy progressive metal.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2006 at 17:42
I would say their music is a blend of Pink Floyd and Pineapple Thief with a bit of Hard Rock/Metal but I can't say wich band... 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2006 at 17:40
Just get Absentia or listen to the sample tracks.  I can't really say what they are for sure.  They range from almost metal to  almost pop/rock(in terms of intensity) and they  do all very well.   As far as comparing them to a single band....um... good luck.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2006 at 17:39
I would say, after earing a lot of material by them , that Porcupine Tree are mostly a Modern Psychedelic/Space Rock band. Most of the old album are of this style, but while they kept that sound, they evolved with each album incorporating a more pop/rock Metal sound to their music, which is a good thing in my opinion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2006 at 17:17
are they hard metal? like prog metal? do they have double pedals and crazy distortion guitar? if not, can you relate them to another band?
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