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oracus
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Topic: Jazz or Classical Posted: December 09 2007 at 14:22 |
I used to love classical, but now i really like jazz. It has that freedom, that grabs you from the start to finish. So, i voted for jazz
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fuxi
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Posted: December 09 2007 at 13:12 |
Not all classical musicians hate prog. The violinist Viktoria Mullova (one of the world's greatest) enjoys King Crimson. I once heard the cellist Stephen Isserlis perform an exuberant version of "Got to get you into my life" (with the pianist Melvyn Tan) - that was a bit of prog in itself!
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MajesterX
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Posted: December 08 2007 at 19:04 |
oddentity wrote:
Can I ask - what instrument do you play, and what prog do you like? I'm asking because I am curious how and why a classical musician likes prog. I'm not saying that they shouldn't - I happen to think that prog is just as valid a musical form as classical or jazz - but the impression one gets is that classical musicians are too snobbish to enjoy a popular music form like prog.
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I play double bass, euphonium and the electric bass. I love melodic and energy-charged progressive rock. Music like that of Rush, Yes and Genesis. I know exactly what you're talking about when you say snobbish classical musicians. I'm only 15, so I wouldn't call myself a professional musician in any respect, but the majority of the music I'm playing now is classical. I have a music theory teacher that seems to fit that "snobbish" stereotype. I'm a rock musician as well, keep in mind- I still sit and learn off of Rush records while I have Hoedown by Copland on my music stand. I guess I wouldn't be the best example for a classical musician's opinion- I started playing as a jazz trumpeter and have moved to a rock and classical bassist and my acoustic guitar style almost resembles Indian classical ragas in a way. I think music has something so say if one is willing to listen, so I try not to classify the music I listen to or judge it based on whether it's a simple Donovan tune or the Rite of Spring.
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micky
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Posted: December 08 2007 at 07:05 |
I tend to see the two in stark terms... though not in absolute terms of course...
Classical to me is about form, structure, beauty.... society.. where the sum. is far greater than any of the parts..
Jazz is about passion, personal expression, the individual... where the parts... are far greater than the sum..
as such... could never chose... love both with a passion... though by no means an expert in either.
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The Pessimist
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Posted: December 08 2007 at 06:54 |
Being ultimately a classical pianist myself, i would have to say classical since i know much more about it. However, i do love to improvise the blues, and that is much closer to jazz than classical i find. Both are two brilliant styles :-)
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R o V e R
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Posted: December 07 2007 at 15:59 |
Classical
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King Crimson776
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Posted: December 07 2007 at 15:52 |
Classical wins. Unless... some people haven't voted on this wonderful poll yet, that is...
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: December 04 2007 at 07:45 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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progressive
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Posted: December 04 2007 at 05:28 |
neither or both...
i don't like many basic jazz or classical
but for example some fusion, avant-garde.. or some parts of those genres
but i chose classical, because (wait a minute, i change the computer...)
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: November 30 2007 at 08:11 |
By the way, anyone interested in Jazzical (Jazz-Classical fusion) music should try Free Flight.
Edited by Slartibartfast - November 30 2007 at 08:14
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Shakespeare
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Posted: November 29 2007 at 21:12 |
Jazz and Classical are related to prog. They are not prog. It does not belong here.
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King Crimson776
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Posted: November 29 2007 at 21:08 |
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Phil
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Posted: November 29 2007 at 04:55 |
Two huge areas of music. Overall, classical, by a nose.
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Yorkie X
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asimplemistake
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Posted: November 29 2007 at 01:49 |
I went with classical mainly for Minimalism, but I really enjoy most all modern forms of classical music, and in reality I can enjoy most any kind of classical music (except Opera...). I also can enjoy jazz a lot. I can listen to either but I do listen to classical (mostly minimalism) a lot more than jazz.
wes montgomery is great though...but so is steve reich...
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oddentity
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Posted: November 29 2007 at 01:42 |
MajesterX wrote:
Classical and Jazz were both two of my first loves in music, and currently I'm mainly a classical musician but I still venture into jazz occasionally and would like to play more of it. That being said, I voted classical. I prefer mainly modern, 20th century and romantic classical. The energy of many pieces that involve several hundred people playing is difficult to match with 3-10 jazz musicians, and I prefer the concrete sense of direction and concept that classical music displays for the listener. I still like jazz very much, but Coltrane and Davis haven't impacted me as much as Shostakovitch and Vaughan Williams have.
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Can I ask - what instrument do you play, and what prog do you like? I'm asking because I am curious how and why a classical musician likes prog. I'm not saying that they shouldn't - I happen to think that prog is just as valid a musical form as classical or jazz - but the impression one gets is that classical musicians are too snobbish to enjoy a popular music form like prog.
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maups2
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Posted: November 29 2007 at 01:19 |
Can't decide. Voted jazz to even things out.
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Zwerg Bart
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Posted: November 28 2007 at 23:24 |
I vote jazz.
Both are enjoyable, but I find I really need to be in a certain mood for classical while I can enjoy jazz almost anytime... but that's just me...
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"Freud's cranium is a snail!" - Dali
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crimhead
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Posted: November 28 2007 at 22:04 |
Flip a coin on this one. I like both. Both have their good and bad.
Classical - Beethoven,Bach,Brahms,Mozart.
Jazz - Miles,Coltrane,Mingus.....
Good question.
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MusicForSpeedin
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Posted: November 28 2007 at 19:35 |
tis true
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