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    Posted: November 02 2010 at 11:07

To anyone interested in drummers, BBC radio 4 have just broadcast a program called "Beat it: The World of The modern drummer".

From today  (021010) you can listen to it on line for up to a week. Check it out here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00vkwvc

It is pretty good and includes interviews with Phil Collins, Phil Selway etc.
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Billy Pilgrim Billy Pilgrim wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Michael Giles:

21st Century Schizoid Man
I Talk to the Wind
Epitaph
Moonchild
In The Court of the Crimson King
Big smile


Clap Giles is the man!
 
You know ... the more I listen to that album the more I think that the drumming in it is exceptional and ... what really makes the album go around ... his touch and taste is impeccable ... and I am not sure that you can "teach" that at all ... you have to feel it and understand the music you are doing far better ... than just drumming or keeping time.
 
And this is what is missing in almost all the metronomic bands today that are considered "prog" ... and they aren't!


the drumming was certainly gonna catch the ears, because the melody line was just the same tune repeating itself over and over.
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Originally posted by Plastic Dreamer Plastic Dreamer wrote:

I am sorry, but to all you proggers that may have missed The Who, in my opinion (and not so humble in this case) there is only one drummer that can seriously be regarded as better than the best.

Keith Moon; ...

 
No one is disagreeing with that. Like Pierre, Keith was also quite non-conventional which helped the music tremendously ... and the amazing thing was/is that Pierre was a master musician (see him on Mike Oldfield's EXPOSED dvd), and he made all that knowledge seem like child's play to his ability to improvise and add touch and feel where there was none, or where Portnoy would just bang the snare drum even more ... every 4th since he doesn't know any other time!
 
Keith showed his mastery in "Who's Next" ... and how he could make the music sound and be even better with just a conventional drummer.
 
The point is ... that prog and progressive music these days, is really missing out on the incredible feel and touch that these people added to the music that helped make it famous ... and we still talk about it.
 
I would not exactly call Keith "progressive" but he is certainly one of the very best rock drummers ever.
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Originally posted by Billy Pilgrim Billy Pilgrim wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Michael Giles:

21st Century Schizoid Man
I Talk to the Wind
Epitaph
Moonchild
In The Court of the Crimson King
Big smile


Clap Giles is the man!
 
You know ... the more I listen to that album the more I think that the drumming in it is exceptional and ... what really makes the album go around ... his touch and taste is impeccable ... and I am not sure that you can "teach" that at all ... you have to feel it and understand the music you are doing far better ... than just drumming or keeping time.
 
And this is what is missing in almost all the metronomic bands today that are considered "prog" ... and they aren't!
Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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^Keith Moon was a phenemonal drummer without any doubt and widely respected
 
My Generation
Baba O'Riley
Won't Get Fooled Again
I Can See For Miles
Going Mobile
 
nuff said
 
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I am sorry, but to all you proggers that may have missed The Who, in my opinion (and not so humble in this case) there is only one drummer that can seriously be regarded as better than the best.

Keith Moon;

QUADROPHENIA

LIVE AT LEEDS

WHOS NEXT

TOMMY

THE WHO SELL OUT

These are albums, not tracks. Check them out. I am quite sure that Mr. Peart, Mr, Portnoy and Mr Collins would agree with me.
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,
 
And I miss Pierre tremendously ... not only was he fabulous to make Gong's music as good as it was, he also make Mike Oldfield look good on stage ... make sure you get the EXPOSED DVD for a total treat and then some ... and tears too ... because it is special!
 
Gong with Pip was jazz'y, with Chris was easy music ... but with Pierre it had a rock edge that fit and made the music stronger ... and yes, side 2 of YOU is the best exhibition of drumming ever done in rock music.  The majority of drummers can not get off the 4 beats to even consider doing what Pierre did in there and did all the time in his sleep and then some!

Iy is hard to believe he has been dead for 5 and a half years already..


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Wink John Bonham
Achilles Last Stand
Moby Dick
Kashmir
How Many More Times
Whole Lotta Love
And many many more...........................Power in his rock, feeling in his blues, regular jazzy beats.
The complete drummer.
I wish his boy Jason all the success in his future projects. I´m sure he knows he has a tuff act to follow.
But he´s brilliant too.
 
 
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Originally posted by paganinio paganinio wrote:

Mike Portnoy
5. ShutDOWN (Office Of Strategic Influence)
4. Nightmare (Nightmare by Avenged Sevenfold)
3. Another Won (The Majesty Demos 1985 - 1986)
2. In held ('twas) in I (SMPTe)
1. Vacant (Train Of Thought)

Train of Thought is the ultimate drumming album and "Vacant" is nothing short of percussion brilliance. Highly recommended.
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Mike Portnoy:
1. The Whirlwind - Transatlantic
2. Blind Faith - Dream Theater
3. The Great Debate - Dream Theater
4. Stream of Conciousness - Dream Theater
5. The Glass Prison - Dream Theater
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Hi,
 
And I miss Pierre tremendously ... not only was he fabulous to make Gong's music as good as it was, he also make Mike Oldfield look good on stage ... make sure you get the EXPOSED DVD for a total treat and then some ... and tears too ... because it is special!
 
Gong with Pip was jazz'y, with Chris was easy music ... but with Pierre it had a rock edge that fit and made the music stronger ... and yes, side 2 of YOU is the best exhibition of drumming ever done in rock music.  The majority of drummers can not get off the 4 beats to even consider doing what Pierre did in there and did all the time in his sleep and then some!
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Mike Portnoy
5. ShutDOWN (Office Of Strategic Influence)
4. Nightmare (Nightmare by Avenged Sevenfold)
3. Another Won (The Majesty Demos 1985 - 1986)
2. In held ('twas) in I (SMPTe)
1. Vacant (Train Of Thought)

Train of Thought is the ultimate drumming album and "Vacant" is nothing short of percussion brilliance. Highly recommended.

Wait... I think my favorite drummer is actually Gavin Harrison. Sorry Gavin, it's hard to remember a guy who didn't just quit his 24-year-old band.
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Pierre Moerlen

1)  You - Master Builder

2) Live au Bataclan - Zero the Hero (sorry, can't find an online example of that)
3) Shamal - Shamal

4) Gazeuse - Expresso

5) Angel's  Egg - I Never Glid Before


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Bill Bruford. (Everything he touches turns into gold.)
Some examples in no specific order:

Starless
Easy Money (live)
Perpetual Change (live)
The Drum also Waltzes
Sample and Hold (live)


Edited by Formentera Lady - October 28 2010 at 16:31
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Off the top of my head:
Heart of the Sunrise (with YES, Fragile)
In the Dead of Night (with UK, UK)
Indiscipline (with KING CRIMSON, Discipline)
Real and Defined Androgens (with ANNETTE PEACOCK, X-Dreams)
Making a Song and Dance (on BILL BRUFORD'S EARTHWORKS first album, Earthworks)
Drew Fisher
https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/
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I can't answer this.  It would require me to choose between Christian Vander, Tatsuya Yoshida, Jaki Liebezeit, and others.  I can't choose between them.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by EatThatPhonebook EatThatPhonebook wrote:

Choose your favorite drummer(s) and list his or their five best performances
 
I'll start:

Neil Peart:

1. O Baterista
2. La Villa Strangiato
3. YYZ
4. By Tor And The Snow Dog
5.2112
 
Not sure it gets any better than this....Earthshine and Secret Touch are also some of my favorites by the Professor.
YES!  May I add Cygnus X-1 and Xanadu to the mix as well?

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Originally posted by EatThatPhonebook EatThatPhonebook wrote:

Choose your favorite drummer(s) and list his or their five best performances
 
I'll start:

Neil Peart:

1. O Baterista
2. La Villa Strangiato
3. YYZ
4. By Tor And The Snow Dog
5.2112
 
Not sure it gets any better than this....Earthshine and Secret Touch are also some of my favorites by the Professor.
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Spoonfull (live)
Toad (live)
The Artist
Presence of the Lord
Deserted Cities of the Heart
 
Despite PA, Ginger Baker was a prog drummer.
 


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Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Michael Giles:

21st Century Schizoid Man
I Talk to the Wind
Epitaph
Moonchild
In The Court of the Crimson King
Big smile


Clap Giles is the man!
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