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    Posted: April 04 2013 at 15:46
Originally posted by DanProgMusic DanProgMusic wrote:

  I'm a big fan of 1970's Progressive Rock but I wish the bands from that era and beyond
would stop these horrible reunions or at least try something new and out of their comfort zone
because it's boring.... . As for YES please stop now your a total parody of yourself.
 Wow I can't believe I'm saying this these guys are my idols but come on it's time to do something else.Cry


Completely agree. Sad but true. At least Rush still look cool on stage.  I can't believe I would ever say something like that about Rush Shocked
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2013 at 22:49
Originally posted by sturoc sturoc wrote:

Is there a curse for lead vocalists in Yes ? The curse of respiratory illnesses ?
Isn't there a Jazz pianist named David Benoit ?


Yes there is!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2013 at 22:35
Is there a curse for lead vocalists in Yes ? The curse of respiratory illnesses ?
Isn't there a Jazz pianist named David Benoit ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 21:51
Originally posted by Cycles2 Cycles2 wrote:

My brother and I saw 'Yes' last week in Hollywood, FL and I'm embarrassed to admit that I thought we were listening to and watching Jon Anderson on vocals. It wasn't until reading this site that I realized it was Jon Davison on vocals. The voice was exactly the same and all the phrasings were the same. He even does some of the quirky movements Jon Anderson did on stage. The final touch was when Jon Davison played the useless percussion instruments on stage such that no one can hear such as the 'bar chimes'. This has Jon Anderson's signature all over it. My seat wasn't too close so I couldn't tell if Davison and Anderson look completely different, but I noticed Davison was thin as I remember Anderson.

I've been calling friends all week and telling them that I've never heard 'Yes' sound this good in the last 20 years and I attributed it to Jon Anderson's renewed vocal qualities. Oh well, embarrassing but who cares as we were treated to an amazing concert.

If the 'Yes' tour is coming to a city near you, you need to see them. They open with the complete 'Close to the Edge' album (without the optional America track). They play all the classics and refrain from the more recent pop hits such as 'Owners of a Lonely Heart' t make room for the great stuff.

   
Haha, this is rather amusing.
Anyway, your sound must have been bad, as I could hear Davison play the "bar chimes" quite clearly!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 08:27
Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

On reading this I just listened to Glass Hammer's If, and JD would certainly fit.

His voice is nearer to JA's than Horns' or or David's ever was.


Who 
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cares

I absolutely love Jon Anderson, but the whole "ermahgerd, Yes without Jon Anderson isn't even Yes" thing is getting beyond ridiculous. Everybody is discrediting these entirely talented musicians. Both David and Davidson are incredible singers.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 08:02
My brother and I saw 'Yes' last week in Hollywood, FL and I'm embarrassed to admit that I thought we were listening to and watching Jon Anderson on vocals. It wasn't until reading this site that I realized it was Jon Davison on vocals. The voice was exactly the same and all the phrasings were the same. He even does some of the quirky movements Jon Anderson did on stage. The final touch was when Jon Davison played the useless percussion instruments on stage such that no one can hear such as the 'bar chimes'. This has Jon Anderson's signature all over it. My seat wasn't too close so I couldn't tell if Davison and Anderson look completely different, but I noticed Davison was thin as I remember Anderson.

I've been calling friends all week and telling them that I've never heard 'Yes' sound this good in the last 20 years and I attributed it to Jon Anderson's renewed vocal qualities. Oh well, embarrassing but who cares as we were treated to an amazing concert.

If the 'Yes' tour is coming to a city near you, you need to see them. They open with the complete 'Close to the Edge' album (without the optional America track). They play all the classics and refrain from the more recent pop hits such as 'Owners of a Lonely Heart' t make room for the great stuff.

   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2012 at 00:20
Yes will be in Australia next month 11th April, and I am going to see the,m. I will review the show and let you know how Jon sounded. Cant wait!

Meeting some PA proggers there too!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2012 at 20:46
Originally posted by DanProgMusic DanProgMusic wrote:

  I'm a big fan of 1970's Progressive Rock but I wish the bands from that era and beyond
would stop these horrible reunions or at least try something new and out of their comfort zone
because it's boring.... . As for YES please stop now your a total parody of yourself.
 Wow I can't believe I'm saying this these guys are my idols but come on it's time to do something else.Cry

I disagree--they are my idols and they still make good music---especially god Howe---as a creative person myself--you can't do Gates again---it was of a time and of certain musicians---Is it as good as 70's Yes--No---just like 70's Genesis was their creative peak---but good musicians still can interest me with their  playing---and I will continue to follow Yes as long as Howe is their guitarist. They still can play a good live show and any great musician should be able to play their classic stuff until they are 90 plus. Les Paul did.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2012 at 12:39
Ugh no kidding. These guys used to be sooo good. Now they are just making a mockery of their former selves. Im going to go listen to Gates of Delerium and forget the past 10 years. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2012 at 11:02
  I'm a big fan of 1970's Progressive Rock but I wish the bands from that era and beyond
would stop these horrible reunions or at least try something new and out of their comfort zone
because it's boring.... . As for YES please stop now your a total parody of yourself.
 Wow I can't believe I'm saying this these guys are my idols but come on it's time to do something else.Cry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2012 at 17:25
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

T. Rabin is an excellent musician


Indeed.

If we judged Howe by GTR, what would we think?

Well there you go. I am guilty of loving that GTR album too I'm afraid.


I've never heard it, so I can't judge it.
 
My point was that we can't judge artists on their "worst" performances (whatever they may be).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2012 at 17:21
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

T. Rabin is an excellent musician


Indeed.

If we judged Howe by GTR, what would we think?

Well there you go. I am guilty of loving that GTR album too I'm afraid.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2012 at 17:20
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

I'm beginning to think the one person who should leave Yes is Squire himself. What's the point of getting new recruits if they won't last long enough to make any worthy contributions?

They did Yes without Squire---that was ABWH---I think finding a singer is really hard---but Squire has been guilty in the past of bringing second rate musicians into the fold (Sherwood) and it has been a disaster ---but so has Anderson--(Oliver and the Russian dude)-You need really amazing musicians in the group to really shine---that's Yes' key to success---But a singer will always be tough---that has always been the case in any group.


No way is  Khoroshev second rate. 

Heartily agree. Only silly person would think he is.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2012 at 17:19
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

T. Rabin is an excellent musician


Indeed.

If we judged Howe by GTR, what would we think?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2012 at 17:17
I really like Open Your Eyes and T. Rabin is an excellent musician
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2012 at 17:05
Originally posted by dennismoore dennismoore wrote:

 
Where did Laz & Epignosis go?  I think we scared them away.


I didn't realize anyone was this opinionated about it, but if you are...

Originally posted by dennismoore dennismoore wrote:

 
Hi  Epignosis, Smile
 
You came down pretty hard on 2Steves, who I (as a YES fan who has seen every tour since 1977) condsider is absolutely spot on in his assessment of Billy. S. 



I didn't come down pretty hard on him; you disagree with me and agree with him.

Originally posted by dennismoore dennismoore wrote:



Billy S. is nowhere near the class of musicians that YES have had over the years.Can Billy S. play an instrument?, Sure, just like most people in this forum. Yes, I have heard his records.  They are over processed and what he plays is a rip off from YES past and prog in general. 



For every Billy Sherwood project that is "over processed," I can show you twelve dozen others from this same time period that are "over processed."


Originally posted by dennismoore dennismoore wrote:


As far as him in YES, the little fart sounds he makes with his guitar on stage actually ruined the YES classics. If you recall, in the Dark Days of Billy-YES, YES sold a recording of an LA Universal Amphitheatre Show.  Billy S. did a guitar solo during Wurm.  It was pathetic beyond belief and was an utter embarassment. Please track that down, listen to it, and then tell us how great a musician Billy S. is.


I think one of Yes's best DVDs is The House of Blues

If you wish to judge a musician based on one performance, then I can safely say that any musician who has toured is garbage.  I've seen all good people; I've seen some terrible performances from those good people too.  Wink

 
Originally posted by dennismoore dennismoore wrote:

Have you seen Chris Squires' Fish Out Of Water DVD?  Billy S. ruins Hold Out You Hand with his little fart noises
on the guitar. THANK GOD the keyboard player in that had the good sense to stay true to the song and play the organ
work straight, to save that song.


Yes I have.  I think it's better than the original.

 
Originally posted by dennismoore dennismoore wrote:




Second, your position that Billy S. was "incidental" and that YES would have made a bad album in the 80s-90s because that was what bands did.  That is ridiculous.  Yes does what Yes does, good or bad.  Blaming YES for the time period and holding Billy S. blameless for his disater that was Open Your Eyes, just beacuse what other artists were doing, is crazy talk.



Yes put out lousy albums around this time without Sherwood's help.  Thank goodness Sherwood wasn't on Union; you might be blaming him for that monstrosity.

And after all, Drama is far superior to TormatoWink

Originally posted by dennismoore dennismoore wrote:



 
2Steves made a great point, in the context of the world class musicians of YES past:
Steve Howe
Rick Wakman
Bill Bruford
Alan White
Pat Moraz...
Peter Banks (very tasty guitar work on the 1st 2 YES records)
...can't forget Jon Anderson Wink...
 
Chris Squire has made some dubious choices:
 
Billy S.  - WTF???
The Buggles?  - What? Were the Bee Gees not available?
Trevor(I wanna be a Rock Star) Rabin
 
2 different classes of musicians.
 
Oh man, this is painful because now I am remembering what rubbish Billy's Open Your Eyes was, over processed, over tracked, no substance in writing or composition.  Oy Vey!
 
@2Steves:  Why did you start this whole mess????Wink




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2012 at 10:08
Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

Wow DennisMoore I am speechless---Wink
 
C'mon man!  Is that all you can say?Confused
 
I spill my guts out here and all I get from you is a one-liner? Cry
 
Actually I was a bit worried, when I was writing silly things about you (as a New Yorker) that you would
not even know who Phil Rizzuto or Ed Koch were, and it would be I who would look silly (sillier?)
 
 
For those outside the NYC area:
 
Phil Rizzuto: a very old semi-good NY Yankee from waaaaaay back who terrorized the entire NYC region,
with his blatant overly-home team biased rantings on Yankee TV broadcasts for decades.
 
Ed Koch: Perhaps one of NYC's finest & beloved & controversial Mayors.
 
OK... 
 
As I have done time in New Jersey, this would now be the time to say something pithy about us folks
on the good side of the Hudson. Wink
 
Where did Laz & Epignosis go?  I think we scared them away.


Edited by dennismoore - February 22 2012 at 10:13
"Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2012 at 09:54
Wow DennisMoore I am speechless---Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2012 at 09:14
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

^ I think you need to realise that Open Your Eyes was originally a Squire & Sherwood project, which morphed into a Yes one once they had all stopped arguing about it.

Therefore, Robert (Epignosis) is, actually, rather accurate in his description of this record. 
 
Chico de Miko,Smile
 
Funny runing into you here.  We never settled our business in the Jeff Beck - Best Guitarist thread.Wink
 
First, I am painfully aware that Open Your Eyes started as a Squire - Sherwood project.  This point actually
goes to twosteves point that Squire's favorite song is "Send In The Clowns" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5os4NFeKFFs  or actually "Bring in a Clown (Into Yes)".  Which he did with Billy.   So a better thing to be discussing
is what crack Squire was smoking when he thought that bringing his little misadventure w/Billy into YES was actually a good idea.
 
Regardless of the genesis of OYE, it was indeed rubbish (just my opinion obviously) but I do think objectively, it will forever live as the worst YES album ever. Since Billy produced it and cowrote it with Squire, logic demands he be held accountable. Is Billy a nice lad to drink a pint with and have a fanboy conversation about YES?, I am sure that is the case. Has his influence over Squire & YES created the biggest debacle of an album, guilty or over-processing, over-tracking, over-sound effected and completely devoid of any heart or soul?.  Yes, guilty as charged. ( I do love playing Judge, Jury AND Executioner!Wink)
 
Hmm, this would be a great poll.  Is OYE the worst YES ablum ever?  Naw...I don't think we need to waste time to find
out that obvious point.
 
Now: if you insist on arguing this point with me, I will insist on inviting you over for a nice wheat beer and we can play the latest Jeff Beck CD while we put this issue to bed.
 
Also. we seem to be fighting a proxy war between 2steves @ Epignosis. Not my intention, as I am sure while twosteves is a fine young yad, I do try to keep my distance from people who:
 
1. Have The Yankee Scooter "Phil Rizzuto" pictures plastered all around their homes ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Rizzuto
2. Proudly wear "I Voted for Ed Koch For Mayor" badges on their lapels to all major social occasions 
(Hey twosteves,Wink  Wasssup baby???
 
So Laz, you just made this OYE thing  just between you and me . This time its personal!
 
LOL   Big smile  Tongue 
 
Do you think an ex-lab Monkey, turned organ-grinder Monkey really has a chance against the 19th century's most crafty
& handsome bandit?
 
Kindest Regards,
 
DennisMoore


Edited by dennismoore - February 22 2012 at 09:26
"Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2012 at 11:52
^ I think you need to realise that Open Your Eyes was originally a Squire & Sherwood project, which morphed into a Yes one once they had all stopped arguing about it.

Therefore, Robert (Epignosis) is, actually, rather accurate in his description of this record. 
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