Whats the point of strange music?

Now there are several prog bands that is really great musicans and composers in the prog genre that seems to put in a strange bit in their music that is not melodic at all and it seems that it is just there just because it is strange. And although it might be original it is not melodic and that kind of misses the point then when the purpose of composing music is just to make it as strange and ugly as possible. Now there are several prog bands that do this, and too name a few Van der graaf generator, the residents, magma, gentle giant, the mars volta and so on.

Now there are several people here that just seems to apreciate the strangest and the least melodic bands of the archives while saying that the bands that is more melodic is just crap.

Is there a secret competiton here in listening to the most strange music on this forum

Now there are atleast one prog artist that took this strangeness to far and then lost the point...there seems to be alot of artists that a few people like just because they are strange not because they are good or melodic.

Man Overboard wrote: maidenrulez wrote: Now there are several prog bands that is really great musicans and composers in the prog genre that seems to put in a strange bit in their music that is not melodic at all and it seems that it is just there just because it is strange. And although it might be original it is not melodic and that kind of misses the point then when the purpose of composing music is just to make it as strange and ugly as possible. Now there are several prog bands that do this, and too name a few Van der graaf generator, the residents, magma, gentle giant, the mars volta and so on. Now there are several people here that just seems to apreciate the strangest and the least melodic bands of the archives while saying that the bands that is more melodic is just crap. Is there a secret competiton here in listening to the most strange music on this forum Now there are atleast one prog artist that took this strangeness to far and then lost the point...there seems to be alot of artists that a few people like just because they are strange not because they are good or melodic. It's called an acquired taste.   Not everyone is looking for the *exact* same thing in music, or else we wouldn't have so many different tastes and views.  What's atonal and not even CLOSE to melodic to on person is beautiful and brilliant to another.

There are genreal things wich can not be described as music there is just general parts like forexample in A plague of lighthouse keepers wich is perhaps 20 seconds long wich does not have any other function than being strange and sounding ugly.

Regardless of music taste there are certain things that every human will find ugly and non melodical.

Man Overboard wrote: That's what you think.   I think the "noise" solo in King Crimson's "Facts Of Life" is absolutely mind-blowingly beautiful.

Now now forexample having an airplane taking off near your house could not be descriped as melodic. Although i can agree that there are certain "noises" that is interesting while not melodical like the "song" Mantra on that Tool cd...i dont mind some noises as long as they serve a higher purpose than just being noises.

Even i can say that the last minutes of the widow is not anything to listen to

Man Overboard wrote: The Mars Volta's noise segments aren't random, they're composed and make good use of pitch and harmony.  That's the difference between that and a plane taking off.

Well at the end of Cygnus vismund cygnus its just cars driving by...thats pretty boring really

It does not matter i doubt i will find a residents fan that thinks every piece of music they made is great...because they have made some stuff that is'nt melodical.

However alot of prog bands seems to throw in just a strange and non-melodic bit inside their epics just to make it "prog" Aint that grand...

maidenrulez wrote: It does not matter i doubt i will find a residents fan that thinks every piece of music they made is great...because they have made some stuff that is'nt melodical. However alot of prog bands seems to throw in just a strange and non-melodic bit inside their epics just to make it "prog" Aint that grand...

Melody is not a pre-requisite for something to be music. Listen to African tribal music for example. Purely percussive, yet were you to question it's musical validity you would be rather discredited.

And as for your saying that many bands are just trying to be weird, that may be true. But Maiden for example, just tries to make catchy guitar hooks coupled with Bruce's distintive vocals. They've been doing it for decades. Doesn't mean it's bad just that is what they want to do. So if another band just wants to do "weird" stuff, why not?

Now i did not say that bands like VDGG or GG is in any way bad. Now VDGG  composes pretty melodic tunes and although there are occational odd bits that is 10-20 seconds...Now some of peter hammills solo stuff is turning the side when it geits just too bloody weird and can not appreciate it.

Now although VDGG and GG  seems to have some kind of purpose with their weird bits in the terms of exploring new musical ground there are several bands thats just ocationally just throw in some strange noises or musical themes just to be more progressive.