Whats the point of strange music?

greenback wrote: Borealis wrote: Trouserpress wrote: Joren wrote: greenback wrote: to conclude, let's say maidenrules RULES, except for putting gentle giant in the package of musical horrors! I believe music is OBJECTIVE. I believe in an ultimate committee who can decide for us what is good and bad! some of you need help, because you are at the point you cannot distinguish the good from the bad! you are lost, but you don't ask help to find your way! music is not a right; it is a responsability you have to filter what is crappy; music is a way to get a reliable taste! music is light, love, passion, peace, positiveness, order, not the opposite! if you cannot select what is REALLY good, then ask some help! ask how people do when it is time to have refined taste. this thread is EXTREMELY important since it warns you about the danger of liking recent bands who produce 1-star albums! music is like books: the classical ones are the best ones, being sure values! do not imitate other people! have a different taste! you have to be reliable! be reliable, not marginal! I can help you to improve your musical taste, avoiding people to not take you seriously. you are fed with MacDonalds and you feel great! you do not want to change it because you are not old enough to begin suffer from the bad nutrition: you learn by experience, not prevention. you do not want to find what is really good because you like unconsciously the mainstream of prog! you need Hendrix-Emerson-Lake & Palmer! We can hear your crying for HELP: for you, it is totally silent; for us, it is a roaring silence! I have been thinking for a long time that you shouldn't be allowed to be a collaborator. How much I respect most of your contributions, your extreme view on music (and the reviews you write because of this, especially of Trout Mask Replica and THRAK) is not professional and very annoying for people who DO like (almost) all forms of experimental music (and there are a lot of people like that here). Hear hear. Posters like Greenback make me frankly ashamed to be a collaborator. Eh, ok, sorry, Greenback's post is the worst I ever saw here. This is such idiotic I can't believe it.   HAVE YOU READ IT? GREENBACK IS IDIOTIC!

Well, I didn't say that. Have you read my post as well?

Eetu Pellonpää wrote: maidenrulez wrote: Is there a secret competiton here in listening to the most strange music on this forum What do you think, are there similar "competitions" on heavy metal boards, that who listens most violent or/and underground bands?

there is certianly a competiton in black metal bands to make the most "heavy" or speedy songs...anyways i dont like heavy metal at all only maiden for me...yup

MikeEnRegalia wrote: ^ that sounds strange ... you seem to like strange music (not too strange, ok I get it), but in Metal only Iron Maiden?  They're about as un-strange as you can get in Metal (except for Manowar).

I have tried several metal bands like Judas Priest,Helloween, Metallica,Slayer,Saxon and that stuff can't say i like a single song these bands ever made...have failed to succeed in finding anyone wich has the originality and power that maiden has...its just something unique that is really great about them...Except for that i pretty much got PURELY strange music around...hell, i have not even got a single Yes record only solo records of Moraz,Wakeman and anderson and the only Genesis record i got is From genesis to revelation i guess that is pretty strange...

Greenback:
Honnestly, unless I misred something, do you really believe what you posted? Or were you awfully stones?

to conclude, let's say maidenrules RULES, except for putting gentle giant in the package of musical horrors!

I believe music is OBJECTIVE. I believe in an ultimate committee who can decide for us what is good and bad! some of you need help, because you are at the point you cannot distinguish the good from the bad! you are lost, but you don't ask help to find your way!

music is not a right; it is a responsability you have to filter what is crappy; music is a way to get a reliable taste! music is light, love, passion, peace, positiveness, order, not the opposite!

if you cannot select what is REALLY good, then ask some help! ask how people do when it is time to have refined taste. this thread is EXTREMELY important since it warns you about the danger of liking recent bands who produce 1-star albums!

music is like books: the classical ones are the best ones, being sure values! do not imitate other people! have a different taste! you have to be reliable! be reliable, not marginal!

I can help you to improve your musical taste, avoiding people to not take you seriously.

you are fed with MacDonalds and you feel great! you do not want to change it because you are not old enough to begin suffer from the bad nutrition: you learn by experience, not prevention. you do not want to find what is really good because you like unconsciously the mainstream of prog! you need Hendrix-Emerson-Lake & Palmer!

We can hear your crying for HELP: for you, it is totally silent; for us, it is a roaring silence!

Have a different taste? Isn't that opposite to everything else you said?

By the way, I hate your 1 star reviews of Tago Mago, and Zeit. The last one surprised me; You seem to be a Tangerine Dream fan.

Borealis wrote: maidenrulez wrote: [ Okay, after all you said against experimental music, you think that? Then you find King Crimson very repetitive, and Iron Maiden highly oricinal? You know what man, why don't you find a metal pop forum instead? the instrumental Los fer words or Gengis khan has more timechanges in one minute than the instrumental red has for its entire 6 minutes

Maybe, I don't care. Red intented to be repetitive, it's an experimentation. So what? Bacause one or two Maiden song has a lot of time change, it is good? Iron Maiden probably wouldn't have existed if it wasn't of King Crimson. If they wanted to make a lot of boring time changing songs, they'd done it. King crimson tryed things, they explored music, one of the reason why it is like it today. Maiden experimented what, tell me?

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I think I have an answer for you Borealis.  Maiden experimented with repeated screnings of pseudo live clips with no audience and checkerboard stage floors... or maybe with the different shades of red in Bruce Dickensons hair... I agree with you that i grew entirely bored with maidens music after "Piece of Mind" (forgive me for taking so long, I was only 15 or so when that album came out).  There are many aspects of experimentation, from showing the increase of intensity of totally monotony of tones, to the instillation of strangeness in music.  And with the insertion of strangeness, does it matter whether it fits the song (for increased musicality) or to c if such weirdness would detect naturally odd people.

Fripp has always been an experimentor with king crimson, but have you heard his solo work??? He saw himself as conceited and stereotyped his own sound in record time (which is y i have not heard too many solo fripp, i guess - although i like 'under heavy manners').  Hell, an experiment can be enjoyed as leasure, or to be seen as a once only project... Its up to the person

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If that was posted a while back, this thread wouldn't have lasted that long...