Most skilled drummer?

Charles wrote: Oh brother......   Skills....   It seems like everyone's definition of being skilled is beating the damn skin like some here probably beat their MY personal definition of a completely skilled drummer is being to play in ANY situation and applying those skills to meet the demands of the music the drummer is playing to.... Today's drummers have lost the skill of using the brushes, and no the brushes are not only play in Be-bop situations, they can be played in R&B, Bluegrass, Country, Swing, and the drummers that get over that foolish stigmatism, the more better rounded the drummer will be.... Oh and for those who say what does the four sub-genres of music I mentioned have to do with progressive rock? Let's just say Steve Howe would never have been the great guitarist he is had he followed the road of many of his peers and steered strictly towards The Blues.... Another gripe for another time.... As far as the drummers mentioned, all but Carey are brilliant overall percussionists which is another lost art in most drummers today, but my favorite of overall SKILLED percussionists is Phil Collins followed by Bill Bruford (who might be the more dexturous) then Terry Bozzio (whose Drumkit might seem gimmicky, but he could give many of his peers a run for their money... Charles

You're crazy.Danny Carey can hold his own with any of the drummers mentioned in this discussion.

He is also an extremely skilled percussionist.

Guess you never saw Tool live and his brilliant percussion/drum piece,huh?

Mark Mondesir

http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Mark_Mondesir.html

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drumsandbass wrote: Bruford gets my vote. As a drummer myself I find his stuff to be very clever and extremely difficult to imitate. Peart doesn't seem to impress me very much. Everyone I know who drums says "Oh yeah Peart is the greatest. I'm influenced by him and blah blah blah." He has a drumset that circles around his body big deal. Bruford could do the same if not more with that little symmetrical jazz set. Come on guys...

AGREED

The most SKILL???

I vote Bill Bruford he is a MASTER, has been in several great gropus with its own personality in each one... revealing a great deal of skills in each proyect (has been several stages of king kimson with remarcable achivements) and has a jazz side  that in the last year has been involved.

dont mis understand me.. PEART is GREAT but i think BILL has a bit more y diverse flow trought music, achieve by his great skills..

p.d. i dont see Carl Palmer on that list??

Colaiuta or Cobham... I chose Cobham

Ya know, I love Neil Peart - he's a prog pioneer, a tight, spot on, skilled player, and one of my first drum idols. But I have to point out that aside from the little bit of big band he did on Burning For Buddy, he never steps out of his prog safety zone.

Billy Cobham I've heard with John Mclaughlin, T. Lavits, Jeff Berlin, Jack Bruce, and Peter Gabrial. Jazz, Rock, Big band, Funk, Fusion, Film scores... Cobham writes all his own material as well.

I've heard Bozzio with Zappa, the Brecker Brothers, Jeff Beck, Stevey Vai, and his ostinato based drumming is groundbreaking. And he was the first to play The Black Page (have you ever seen a transcription of that? Yow!)

Vinnie Colaiuta has played on hundreds of records, he's one of the most prolific studio cats on the planet, from Frank Zappa, to Sting, to the Dixie Chicks - he can play anything.

Bruford's the same way: Yes, Crimson, Genesis, Al DiMeola, Earthworks, Gordian Knot, prog pioneer, fusion player, big band - extremely versatile.

No offense meant to Neil, but I honestly don't understand why he's winning a "most skilled drummer" poll.

floydaholic wrote: How the f**k has no one voted for Colaitua? He is the most skilled on this list. Do you people have ears? Or do you just know nothing about drumming?

Well, why haven't you voted for him, then? But yeah, since Mark Mondesir isn't on the poll, I will vote for Colaiuta.