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Livnica
Forum Newbie Joined: April 03 2006 Location: Yugoslavia Status: Offline Points: 31 |
Posted: April 04 2006 at 09:14 | ||
Friends(prijatelji) don't argue about Snow Dog.First my mistake i haven't seen the Smak topic that was forged before my Smak.I will continue in that room to write my posts.But i haven't seen that topic soo i will continue here to spread Smak.Second Snow Dog can you bring back this topic to original place becoase this is about Smak not about what i suggest to listen. Third: I created this topic soo i can show the World that Smak is really exellent band which can be compared to Zeppelin,Queen and otheer bands which have been made as a legends of music.I also wanted to see if any of you English,German,American... have heared of Smak the yugoslavian rock band. I want to say pozzz-hay to people that have come here before me and spread Smak,Leb i Sol,Time,Yu Grupa,Korni Grupa,Buldozer,Partibrejkers music! |
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Sve sto je bilo i moze biti jedino je Smak neponovljiv.
LP ''Crna Dama'' 1977. |
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blazno
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 13 2006 Location: Slovenia Status: Offline Points: 218 |
Posted: April 04 2006 at 09:42 | ||
Hey Livnica!(nice to see another member from the ex-YU btw.) I have Crna Dama on vinyl but my record player is broken so I haven't had a chance to listen to it. And since you seem to be an expert (or a big fan) on Smak I want to know if the record is (or any other) worth buying? My dad mentoined they are great many times, but he likes allmost everything so he's opinion does't count.. |
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NotAProghead
Special Collaborator Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 7723 |
Posted: April 04 2006 at 11:27 | ||
Thanks for good advice, pero. If I'll visit Croatia again I'll try to find albums of JOSIPA LISAC, ELEKTRIČNI ORGAZAM, ŠARLO AKROBATA, SEPTEMBAR. By the way, my wife and I were in Porech too - wonderful town. Edited by NotAProghead |
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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KazimirMajorinc
Forum Groupie Joined: February 23 2006 Status: Offline Points: 71 |
Posted: April 04 2006 at 13:23 | ||
Crna Dama is, very good record, i.e. they had ideas, but they are in much more commercial arrangement than on their first and probably the best album. You know how it happens with prog.
But if you are interested in Yu, Bijelo Dugme is alpha and omega, they are very commercial, but their composer is simply great musical talent and lof ot his material can be easily called prog. BTW, you know, you can download anything of YU rock - for those interested in Smak, start here with songs Ulazak u Harem and Biska 2. Then follow your heart. :) |
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terramystic
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 02 2005 Status: Offline Points: 776 |
Posted: April 04 2006 at 13:36 | ||
Smak's debut, Crna dama and Stranice.. are all good albums. My fave
ex-yu prog group besides Begnagrad, Leb i sol, Indexi and Tako...
Bijelo dugme is more commercial but some of their songs could be called prog related - this side is well represented on a compillation called "Hitovi 3". |
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Livnica
Forum Newbie Joined: April 03 2006 Location: Yugoslavia Status: Offline Points: 31 |
Posted: April 04 2006 at 17:11 | ||
Kazimire, brate, are you nuts??? Bregovic can't do a squat compared to R.M. Tocak & Smak, not to mention Leb i Sol, Yu-grupa, Time, Korni grupa, ... Bijelo dugme's music is called shepherd's rock- because the inspiration for it came from listening to the sheep doing "beeeee". And true, "Bijelo dugme" is the most commercial bend of ex-yu, and people listen to them. Because the people are the sheep. Most of their fans listen to Turbo-folk, a unique amalgam of Radio Teheran's top-of-the-pops, coyote hawling and a rudimentary skill of pressing two keys on a synthesizer. I believe that proves my previous point.
Terramystic, could you clarify how on Earth can "Bijelo dugme" be related to progressive rock??? |
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Sve sto je bilo i moze biti jedino je Smak neponovljiv.
LP ''Crna Dama'' 1977. |
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NotAProghead
Special Collaborator Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 7723 |
Posted: April 04 2006 at 17:23 | ||
I can't believe all people listening to "Bijelo dugme" are so desperately stupid. |
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Seyo
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 08 2004 Location: Bosnia Status: Offline Points: 1320 |
Posted: April 04 2006 at 20:24 | ||
Welcome everyone! Nice to see some folks discussing the "good ole" exYU prog from the 1970s Maybe we can create a separate thread for exYU prog? I expect many of you can write some reviews too, I can't do it all by myself !!! Go here http://www.progarchives.com/Band-list.asp?country=203 and check there are still many albums without reviews. Just please, read the guidelines and instructions how to write a review. It is available elesewhere on the forum. Regarding BIJELO DUGME, here is my opinion. I have been contemplating their addition here for quite some time. Their first 4-5 albums can arguably be included into "prog related" category. Their style of that time was similar to URIAH HEEP, DEEP PURPLE, ARGENT, BIRTH CONTROL... of course with notorius addition of "shepherd's rock" folk-influenced lyrics. Later stuff during 1980s was horrible very commercialized (although their first phase was also very popular, anyone rememeber "Dugmemania" phenomenon?) "arena" style mainstream pop/rock with Balkan folk, not interesting for prog people. I was personally never a fan of BIJELO DUGME (except when I was 13-14 old), but their overall career probably deserves mentioning them in "prog-related" section... ? |
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Seyo
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 08 2004 Location: Bosnia Status: Offline Points: 1320 |
Posted: April 04 2006 at 20:34 | ||
All mentioned are excellent artists! INDEXI, LEB I SOL and SEPTEMBER are already here. JOSIPA is arguably close to "progressive rock" with different influences from blues, jazz and soul. ELEKTRICNI ORGAZAM and SARLO AKROBATA are also excellent, but they belong to another story (post punk, new wave). TIME debut album is a milestone of ex-YU prog (and not only prog) rock, but check my review of DRAGO MLINAREC first album, released in 1971, before TIME!! |
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cuncuna
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 29 2005 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 4318 |
Posted: April 05 2006 at 01:13 | ||
I don't know anything about "Smak", but it sounds a lot like "Muack!"...
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ˇBeware of the Bee!
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Seyo
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 08 2004 Location: Bosnia Status: Offline Points: 1320 |
Posted: April 05 2006 at 03:43 | ||
Well, it means something like "end", "execution" or "demise". Typical phrase is "smak svijeta" meaning "the end of the world"..., "smaknuti" means "to execute" someone...
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Seyo
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Posted: April 05 2006 at 04:22 | ||
IMHO "Crna dama" is their best album, excellent funky jazz-rock with wonderful keyboards by Miki Petkovski. I never saw the CD re-issue, so I gues you'll have to repair that old turntable! |
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terramystic
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 02 2005 Status: Offline Points: 776 |
Posted: April 05 2006 at 06:23 | ||
Yes, they are commercial and less skilful than Smak but some songs are unmistakably prog (in the style of proto-prog, hard prog) or at least attempt at it: "Sve ce to mila moja...", "Sta bi dao da si na mom mjestu", "Kad bi bio bijelo dugme", "Pozurite konji moji"... Edited by terramystic |
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Livnica
Forum Newbie Joined: April 03 2006 Location: Yugoslavia Status: Offline Points: 31 |
Posted: April 05 2006 at 07:42 | ||
Ok i see that you got my post so i will say only this,here we or i don't want any Bjelo dugme in this topic.To me they have turned back to Yu-Rock long time ago. Seyo i agree with you about Yu-prog topic but you should call it like we Yugoslavians have always said 'YU-Rock'.But if you all want here to write about Yu-Rock bands it's fine with me,we need to spread this music around the world by one room-topic. Anyway from which part of the world are you, Smakovci(Smak fans)? |
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Sve sto je bilo i moze biti jedino je Smak neponovljiv.
LP ''Crna Dama'' 1977. |
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Easy Livin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: April 05 2006 at 07:56 | ||
As this band are listed on the site, I've moved this thread into the Prog Music Lounge.
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Livnica
Forum Newbie Joined: April 03 2006 Location: Yugoslavia Status: Offline Points: 31 |
Posted: April 05 2006 at 12:49 | ||
I thank you good man
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Sve sto je bilo i moze biti jedino je Smak neponovljiv.
LP ''Crna Dama'' 1977. |
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Livnica
Forum Newbie Joined: April 03 2006 Location: Yugoslavia Status: Offline Points: 31 |
Posted: April 05 2006 at 12:51 | ||
Hay Blazno! Frank Zappa and the mothers were at the place playing around Someone stupid with a flame gun burn the place to the ground Smoke on the Water! A Fire in the Sky! :) |
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Sve sto je bilo i moze biti jedino je Smak neponovljiv.
LP ''Crna Dama'' 1977. |
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NotAProghead
Special Collaborator Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 7723 |
Posted: April 05 2006 at 14:02 | ||
Thanks for the information, Seyo. I think for me it's worth to try first SEPTEMBER, JOSIPA and DRAGO MLINAREC. As I understand, albums of MLINAREC were not released on CD, I hope it's only a question of time. I also have some live albums of PARNI VALJAK, the band playing good melodic rock with nice vocals and guitar playing. Did they ever play something close to prog? |
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Seyo
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 08 2004 Location: Bosnia Status: Offline Points: 1320 |
Posted: April 06 2006 at 03:57 | ||
No, PARNI VALJAK has nothing to do with prog, although they were formed from the remnants of the Drago Mlinarec's backing band GRUPA 220. Their 1970s albums are sort of classic rock/boogie/hard rock/glam style. Their later stuff is a mainstream AOR pop/rock. They are extremely good instrumentalist but not my cup of tea. |
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Seyo
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 08 2004 Location: Bosnia Status: Offline Points: 1320 |
Posted: April 06 2006 at 03:59 | ||
You got that right, Terramystic! |
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