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Easy Livin 
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
 Posted: August 13 2006 at 11:53 |
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A request. When posting Inappropriate reviews, could you include the "permanent link" please (or the review number). It makes them easier to locate.
Thanks.
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Ricochet
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
Posted: August 13 2006 at 09:31 |
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VANGELIS — Invisible ConnectionsReview by goyobarrios
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memowakeman
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Posted: August 12 2006 at 23:08 |
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WATERS, ROGER — Radio K.A.O.S.
Review by Celestial voice (Derek jennings)
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All of us have favorite artists /bands / idols... but for most that we love them, we have to be objective when reviewing an album ... seems like Celestial Voice loves Roger (i do) but the review doesn`t say anything but Roger is a genius etc.. where`s the ALBUM review?
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Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
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Atkingani
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: October 21 2005 Location: Terra Brasilis Status: Offline Points: 12291 |
Posted: August 12 2006 at 20:12 |
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Dear Rico and dear all, I'm returning slowly to the active duty after some problems at home. Please be patient... I'll help Bob dealing with all previous stuff. Thanks buddies!
Edited by Atkingani - August 12 2006 at 20:29 |
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Guigo
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: August 12 2006 at 15:58 |
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I saw this too, Chris and thought of you! I really want to tell him to listen to Black Oni (not that I've heard any Guapo yet myself, but I've read that this album is the better of the two). But yes, it's the way he insults most proggers intelligence, by saying that we don't know about other apparently progressive/indie-rock bands of the 1990s... |
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memowakeman
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 19 2005 Location: Mexico City Status: Offline Points: 13033 |
Posted: August 12 2006 at 06:13 |
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Yes, i have just read his Secret World review, it almost bring me to tears ...
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Australian
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Joined: June 13 2006 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 3278 |
Posted: August 12 2006 at 04:28 |
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I agree, it just talks of Gensis and how band the secret world is.
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Dragon Phoenix
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Joined: August 31 2004 Status: Offline Points: 1475 |
Posted: August 12 2006 at 03:52 |
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Seconded. That review is a waste of space. |
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Blog this:
http://artrock2006.blogspot.com |
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Sacred 22
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Joined: March 24 2006 Status: Offline Points: 1509 |
Posted: August 12 2006 at 00:28 |
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Yup, hence the handle "braindamage"
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Ricochet
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
Posted: August 12 2006 at 00:14 |
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Dear Easy Livin and Guigo, how much can we accuse mr. vsrich , with his Secret World Live review, of babbling nothing much about the album or Gabriel at all, just wrongly connecting him with Genesis or with the genuine classic brand of prog.
Regards, Ricochet. *fingers crossed* |
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Mandrakeroot
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Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: August 11 2006 at 05:23 |
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I should say that also to myself it have canceled of it a lot of reviews! For some immediately I am myself a lot gotten angry (even if then I included) for other I did not play attention us. However some of those that it have canceled they make laugh, other they are offensive...
In my case (and I believe in all of the cases) a review serve to understand how an album id done. I cite three my reviews:
1) King Crimson "The Power To Believe": I given alone 2 stars but I could give it well 5. The problem is that I wanted to underline like there be album that can be voted from 1 to 5 stars without that their value was altered (that in its case is high!).
2) Opus Avantra "Lyrics": Is impossible to review an album of the Opus Avantra! In fact I do a summary of how much explained in the booklet, otherwise this review would not exist (like for the same motive not still I wrote that of "Strata"). And yet if I go to see this album be there is still. It means that the mine it was a good opinion to justify the vow and that a lot appreciated it.
3) Circus 2000 "Circus 2000": Here I wanted to restore complete a review of the period. Therefore of mine there it was alone the introduction. In this case believe to have done a good service and make that is still in seat gives back myself happy.
However it doubt comes me: It is just to do a review where it is put the accent on the comparison between like album even if of different periods?
It would be able to be a matter of Anglagard and Anekdoten where the comparison with the King Crimson is pratically obligatory. For myself itself because I would explain a lot well how the album it is done.
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crimson thing
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Joined: April 28 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 848 |
Posted: August 11 2006 at 03:42 |
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Rereading my comment above, I can see how my criticism of the application of the guidelines looks like a criticism of the moderation, which wasn't my intention...
.....keep up the good work... |
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"Every man over forty is a scoundrel." GBS
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Easy Livin
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: August 11 2006 at 03:23 |
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JL Ponty dealt with.
Edited by Easy Livin - August 11 2006 at 03:24 |
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Easy Livin
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: August 11 2006 at 03:06 |
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You're thoughts are welcome CT.
Don't assume of course that just because a review is referred in the inappropriate reviews thread, it is automatically removed. Atkingani and I are very appreciative of the help we get from this thread, but at the end of the day we take the decisions ourselves, based on our view of whether the review complies with the guidelines.
Hopefully this allows us to be pretty consistent.
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crimson thing
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Joined: April 28 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 848 |
Posted: August 10 2006 at 20:40 |
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I'm not always sure what is acceptable here as a review & what's not - which is why I haven't yet done one - but I certainly think that when reviewers say stuff like :
"I don't have much to say on this one as I don't listen to it all that much. But with my personal opinion aside it is still one of the best prog albums and deserves to be rated accordingly. "
which is part of a review currently on the front page, that surely isn't much cop?
In any case, I still see your criteria for rejecting reviews as too arbitrary; many that don't describe the music or one's reaction to it, or which don't help me to decide whether to take a punt on a certain album, are allowed to stand; others that are quite informative, and helpful, and therefore necessarily subjective, are deleted. As a service to those of us who don't know every prog band going, I think the reviews are OK, but could be better. My suspicion is that your rules (for rejection/acceptance) aren't so wrong, but that their application could be improved.
Please don't just do a knee-jerk huffy response to criticism like this; I've monitored the reviews themselves & "inappropriate reviews" forum for some time, and am just reporting on what I see...
 ...from the outside lookin' in.... |
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"Every man over forty is a scoundrel." GBS
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Syzygy
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 16 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 7091 |
Posted: August 10 2006 at 16:08 |
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You mean he's done this before?
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
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Ricochet
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
Posted: August 10 2006 at 15:54 |
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^ are we giving him more reason to think we're "nerds" opressive people (see his flame complain)
 (I refrain from an vote on that one...) Edited by Ricochet - August 10 2006 at 15:55 |
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Syzygy
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 15:52 |
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I'm not sure about this review. http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=86465
No quibble with the rating, and the reviewer does engage in some discussion about the music, but overall it seems to be more about how he prefers other bands, and the last couple of paragraphs he seems more concerned with asserting his superior taste and judgement:
I think a lot of proggers like these guys because they haven't heard anything of the progressive/indie-rock explosion of the 1990s. Even obvious band likes Ruins or Don Caballero are far more intersting than Guapo. The only way I can see anyone being impressed by this band is if they only listened to 70's prog and were ignorant of the progressive-influenced independent rock bands of the 90's (I'm NOT talking about Death Cab for Cutie).
I'm not quite sure how Guapo have connected with progressive fans, while bands like Don Cab, Ruins, and the Flying Luttenbachers tend to appeal to independent rock fans. Maybe it is a label oriented thing, or maybe a lot of progressive rock fans find virtue in tedium. My suggestion is to ignore what record label they are on (don't get me wrong, Cuneiform is great) and actually listen to the music. This one is a snoozer... I don't think that the review or rating should be deleted, but maybe some editing could be suggested.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
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Ricochet
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
Posted: August 10 2006 at 15:43 |
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":who is Jean-Luc Ponty"? how original... (then again, no trademark, it's for "grabs")  |
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 15:41 |
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And he even quoted part of the first sentence of my review for that album (which I published this morning).
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My explanation is very simple. This record is not for regular listening, very near to John
Cage´s works (minimal and empty of all kind of tune) but, if you like Blade Runner, this
album is the most aprox. of all. 
Roger waters is a genius there is no other artist that can even come close to being as creative as him. Radio kaos is a superb album and i dont care what anybody says, to me it doesnt even sound like its from the 80s, if i were to guess i couldnt even tell you. roger waters is the most amazing and creative singer song writer ive ever heard bar none. 
Syzygy wrote:
The third work of CURVED AIR released in 1972 "Phantasmagoria". It is an initial highest personally masterpiece. A lot of guests of the jazz system are invited, and a fantastic album like the casket where various music is installed. The work that is excellent progressive music. The reason for the member named Linwood is that this used the family name after Sonja Kristina marries as those who compose though credit is done. 
