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Figglesnout
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Topic: "Modern Prog" Big 6 Posted: September 04 2006 at 14:03 |
So I was thinking...
Everyone knows of the 70s "Big 6" (KC, Floyd, Tull, Genesis, Yes, ELP)...but that prog era has long since past.
I was wondering which bands currently hold the prog reins for the New Big 6. Which bands are sucessful enough commerically to be considered "Big", and innovative enough to be considered something new and large? Which modern bands are the New Big 6?
Now, I know of four that shouldn't be denied a title in this little competition:
-Porcupine Tree
-The Mars Volta
-Radiohead
-Tool
But that leaves two other spots open (unless there is only a Big 4 this era???). Which bands do you guys/girls think carry the prog title well enough while being commercailly large enough to be considered big and innovative enough to "belong" to this era?
Which bands do you think qualify to be the New Big 6?
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Gravity Eyelids
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Posted: September 04 2006 at 14:10 |
Cool topic.
Those four are on my list, and I'll add Opeth.
6th: Probably Sigur Ros, or GSYBE
Edited by Gravity Eyelids - September 04 2006 at 14:14
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Trickster F.
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Posted: September 04 2006 at 14:14 |
Innovative basically excludes DT, Neo-Prog and Retro Symph bands.
The 4 on your list are original enough and also extremely popular to make the list, Opeth, as suggested above, is another neccessity. Riverside is also immensely popular, as I notice, so their inclusion would make sense too.
I would mention Kayo Dot myself, but their commercial success is close to non-existent, so that excludes them according to your definition as well.
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laztraz
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Posted: September 04 2006 at 14:15 |
I agree with including Riverside.
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MajesterX
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Posted: September 04 2006 at 14:25 |
Trickster F. wrote:
Innovative basically excludes DT |
 DT basically invented prog metal next to Fate's Warning and Queensryche. If that's not innovative, i'd like to hear your definition.
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Proghat
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Posted: September 04 2006 at 14:27 |
Yeah, I don't really care how popular certain prog bands are, because
stuff like Tool, TMV and Radiohead don't deserve all the ass-kissing
they get. If I was going to make a list of new bands that I thought
were actually important to the prog scene or something, though, it'd probably include more bands on par with:
-Dream Theater
-Opeth
-Porcupine Tree
-Pain of Salvation
And maybe some Sigur Ros, GYBE, Explosions in the Sky, etc.
Edited by Proghat - September 04 2006 at 14:28
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Gravity Eyelids
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Posted: September 04 2006 at 14:37 |
Although I'm not a fan of DT, they probably deserve a spot.
So my new list would be:
-Porcupine Tree -The Mars Volta -Radiohead -Tool
-DT
Opeth
Honorable mentions:
-Sigur Ros
-GSYBE
-Riverside
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richardh
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Posted: September 04 2006 at 14:43 |
Post 70's:
Dream Theater
Marillion
IQ
The Flower Kings
Porcupine Tree
Spocks Beard
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Hatters
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Posted: September 04 2006 at 15:05 |
I would say
-Dream Theater -Tool -Pain of Salvation -Porcupine Tree -GYBE -The Mars Volta
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Posted: September 04 2006 at 15:29 |
1.DT
2.Tool
3.Porcupine Tree
4.Opeth
5.Pain Of Salvation
6.The Mars Volta
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The Wizard
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Posted: September 04 2006 at 15:32 |
-Radiohead
-Mars Volta
-Porcupine Tree
-Pure Reason Revolution
-Tool
-Opeth
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mccrank_yeahrig
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Posted: September 04 2006 at 15:32 |
Well, I think that no one has mentioned Anglagard, Anekdoten, Far Corner, Zaar, and I think they have to be there.... I think it's because I see a lot of Prog Metal bands (almost all), and that's it's not the only new prog put there. Obviusly Metal is one of the new prog genres (despite I don't like it), but there are more genres out there. And I think that RIO is a genre that is still growing up and maybe is one of the most innovative out there. But It's just my opinion   . Just try listening those!!
Edited by mccrank_yeahrig - September 04 2006 at 15:37
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el böthy
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Posted: September 04 2006 at 15:33 |
mmm...lets see, would you incluide bands that are not longer playing? As Anglagard? Cause if so...
Tool Dream Theater Porcupine Tree Anglagard The Mars Volta Opeth
And if not, then Pain of Salvation
Edited by el böthy - September 04 2006 at 15:35
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DavidInsabella
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Posted: September 04 2006 at 15:38 |
Pain of Salvation
The Mars Volta
The Flower Kings
Spock's Beard
Dream Theater
Echolyn
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Drew
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Posted: September 04 2006 at 15:40 |
Dream Theater
POS
Tool
Opeth
Riverside
Flower Kings
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The Miracle
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Posted: September 04 2006 at 15:41 |
DT Tool Mr. Bungle The Mars Volta PoS Dredg
Most innovative of the bunch. Modern symphonic isn't innovative at all and always was secont-rank stuff for me.
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sleeper
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Posted: September 04 2006 at 15:47 |
If its from a combination of inovation and comercial succes then:
Dream Theater
Tool
Porcupine Tree
Flower Kings
Marillion
Radiohead
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: September 04 2006 at 15:55 |
Well, prog bands don't often get commerical success these days. So fitting the criteria it ould be something like this:
The Mars Volta, Dream Theater, Opeth, Tool, Radiohead, Porcupine Tree (Coheed is a pending inclusion, because there's controversy over their status)
I don't necessarily agree that they should be the "Big 6," but they are the obvious choices for innovation and success. I also personally think prog music has expanded so much since the 70s, that there can't be a 6 band limit for this "Big" group.
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Philéas
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Posted: September 04 2006 at 16:31 |
My personal choices:
1. The Mars Volta
2. Taal
3. Pure Reason Revolution
4. Porcupine Tree
5. Muse
6. Tool
Edited by Philéas - September 04 2006 at 16:32
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SirPsycho388
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Posted: September 04 2006 at 16:44 |
I'd say the Modern Big 6 are:
Tool
Dream Theater
Spock's Beard
The Mars Volta
Porcupine Tree
The Flower Kings
I'd like to give Radiohead a spot, but I don't feel that they are as progressive as the above.
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