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Froth
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Topic: The Incredible String Band Posted: September 12 2006 at 07:29 |
Why aren't The Incredible String Band in the archives? Without doubt THE first progfolk goup (their first record was in 1966) and their records are superb 'Hangman's Beutiful Daughter' is essential in my mind
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Sean Trane
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Posted: September 12 2006 at 07:38 |
Wrong place for this thread
Well, the group will come under scrutiny by Tony and Myself in the coming months.
While ISB is/was progressive at the time, they are more representative of Acid Folk and present very few rock affinities.
They (Clive Palmer and Robin Williamson) were part of this great Scottish folkie invasion that included Donovan and the Pentangle twin barrel Jansch and Renbourn with Jacqui McShee.
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Froth
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Posted: September 12 2006 at 07:43 |
Very true, but if fairport and Forest get to be here... ISB music might not prog by todays standards, but in the mid to late 60's it was some of the most ambitious music around.
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Certif1ed
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Posted: September 12 2006 at 08:11 |
I would think that since the Progressive Folk genre is still "new" to this site, that ISB would get serious consideration - as would Love and a number of other progressive folk bands that wouldn't carry the Prog Rock tag. Much Tangerine Dream and Kraftwerk (for example) is also lacking in Rock, but that doesn't prevent either from being here. I would be tempted to compare ISB more with Comus than with Fairport...
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salmacis
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Posted: September 12 2006 at 11:53 |
Indeed. I wouldn't personally have voted for Fairport being here, but they are and it's not worth getting into a lather about- I can certainly live with it. I'd say ISB had more links to the prog/acid folk genre that emerged than Fairport, however. The sounds of Comus et al had to originate from somewhere!!
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Rocktopus
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Posted: September 13 2006 at 06:50 |
Certif1ed wrote:
Much Tangerine Dream and Kraftwerk (for example) is also lacking in Rock, but that doesn't prevent either from being here.
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Oh ISB rocks too, and just like with Tangerine Dream (or Fairport, Steeleye..), on all their worst tracks. But I'm all for, of course. More than ever!
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Posted: September 14 2006 at 15:43 |
They're on the list of bands to be debated.
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 11:10 |
Has the ISB been rejected?
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Sean Trane
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 13:34 |
Andrea Cortese wrote:
Has the ISB been rejected? |
Andrea, please refer to the tteam thread in the collab zone. This is a bit difficult for me to asses in either proto-prog or full blown prog folk>> I think prog-related wouldn't fit them> I'm not sure they are ""prog", even if they were groundbreaking and progressive
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 18:41 |
A friend turned me onto them. Great stuff. The covers are goofy but sort of haunting.
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: June 29 2007 at 08:42 |
Sean Trane wrote:
Well, the group will come under scrutiny by Tony and Myself in the coming months. |
Great! I agree that "proto prog" which you suggested would be a good home for them. They did some nice proggy folk tunes past 1969 too, but if one should measure which eare would be more important for prog folk, the pre-1969 would get my vote too.
Edited by Eetu Pellonpää - June 29 2007 at 08:43
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Heptade
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Posted: June 29 2007 at 08:53 |
By 1971, the ISB were doing lots of rock tracks on their albums like as "Liquid Acrobat as Regards the Air", which has a rhythm section and contains a long, multi-section story song. Just sayin'
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Posted: June 29 2007 at 09:06 |
One of the reasons that made the band disband is that Heron was pushing the band towards a prog orientation while Robinson wanted more folk, so they have many prog songs.
I would say Proto-Prog, but Prog Folk is fine too.
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Rocktopus
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Posted: September 01 2007 at 18:09 |
ISB is pioneering progfolk. Proggier than Trader Horne, Tudor Lodge, Fresh Maggots, Folque, Fuchsia, Mellow Candle, Ramases to name some progfolks already included here.
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Sckxyss
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Posted: September 02 2007 at 02:22 |
They seem to have much less opposition than bands such as the Who for addition, so why not? An addition would potentially expose people like me to music we'd likely enjoy!
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