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Atavachron 
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The author's intention clearly was not to offend though he could have worded it better. He's coming from the perspective of a musician and so he knows not the raised eyebrows he may cause...
Edited by Atavachron - November 03 2006 at 00:50
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: November 03 2006 at 00:40 |
I studied piano and played drums for years but most of my proghead friends (Some fanatics) can't play hide and seek.
This sounds elitist and pretentuious even when I'm sure it's not the intention, sensibility and love for good music is not exclusive of musicians.
On the other hand I know a lot of musicians (some proffesionals) who aren't able to understand Prog.
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Peter
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Posted: November 03 2006 at 00:06 |
 GHOSTNOTE wrote:
I am a drummer, who has loved progressive rock for many years and i have noticed
that myself and other musicians i haved jammed with over the years can relate with this
style of music, but people who do not play a musical instrument do not.
So ultimitly is prog rock for musicians only? |
Obviously not.
(The only thing I can "play" is a stereo!) 
Only a minority of the prog fans I've known have been musicians.
I imagine one could get the same idea about jazz, if one was a jazz musician. 
(Plus, musicians tend to hang around with/know other musicians.)
Edited by Peter Rideout - November 03 2006 at 00:08
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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bhikkhu
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Posted: November 02 2006 at 23:56 |
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I don't play an instrument now, but I was a cellist when I first got into prog.
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darkshade
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Posted: November 02 2006 at 23:48 |
ResidentAlien wrote:
GHOSTNOTE wrote:
I am a drummer, who has loved progressive rock for many years and i have noticed
that myself and other musicians i haved jammed with over the years can relate with this
style of music, but people who do not play a musical instrument do not.
So ultimitly is prog rock for musicians only? |
Wow... how terribly condescending and presumptuous. The only thing I play is the stereo; I also happen to value my mind and my sanity, and I'd prefer not to squander either on sh*tty main-stream music. To suggest that good music can only be appreciated by people who play music is absurd and rather disrespectful.
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i dont think thats what he meant. from i believe, he meant that most people he knows that likes prog rock also plays a musical instrument.
what's funny is most ppl i know that like prog ALSO play a musical instrument, though i know some that dont.
to add to the discussion, i think prog is especially great for those who compose, like me. for they just WISH they could have written that song they just heard.
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ResidentAlien
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Posted: November 02 2006 at 23:42 |
GHOSTNOTE wrote:
I am a drummer, who has loved progressive rock for many years and i have noticed
that myself and other musicians i haved jammed with over the years can relate with this
style of music, but people who do not play a musical instrument do not.
So ultimitly is prog rock for musicians only? |
Wow... how terribly condescending and presumptuous. The only thing I play is the stereo; I also happen to value my mind and my sanity, and I'd prefer not to squander either on sh*tty main-stream music. To suggest that good music can only be appreciated by people who play music is absurd and rather disrespectful.
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tardis
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Posted: November 02 2006 at 23:39 |
Actually, I was in a band for a short period of time, but I was just the vocalist. 
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stomp
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Posted: November 02 2006 at 23:36 |
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I love prog but play no instruments, and I certainly cant sing. About half the people I know who like prog rock play instruments though.
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stonebeard
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Posted: November 02 2006 at 22:55 |
tardis wrote:
Great. I'm not a musician. So I get left out.
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Yes you are a musician. Just say you are, and if anyone asks to jam or something, just say "I don't jam, I compose 20-minute opuses with no improvisation whatsoever." 
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tardis
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Posted: November 02 2006 at 22:50 |
Great. I'm not a musician. So I get left out.
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The T
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Posted: November 02 2006 at 22:49 |
I agree... off course you can like Prog if you're not a musician, but you'll miss one of its best elements: the musicianship, the possibility of analyzing structures, keys, harmonies, drum playing, etc, and get amazed (or dissapointed) by what you hear.
Non-musicians tend to like their music just for entertainment sake, just as something better than silence for moments like eating, working, etc...or they want music with a purpose, namely music that helps them dance..... they just won't sit down througha 20+minute epic.... what fun will it be to them? for them, short, 3-4 minute pieces are more than enough...surely they can love some aspects of prog, too, but they won't appreciate them in their whole magnitude as a musician can.
So I'll say 90% prog-lovers are musicians....I know others that aren't but at least they love art....they love literature, they love good cinema...THEY LOVE THEIR BRAIN TO BE CHALLENGED AND PLAYED WITH....
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stonebeard
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Posted: November 02 2006 at 22:47 |
Yes. And even if you're not a musician, just say you are. It makes things easier. Like if you say "I like prog rock," and someone else says "What's that?" you can always say "Oh, you wouldn't understand. It's for musicians. It's like...complex and stuff."
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 02 2006 at 22:44 |
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Though I've known some non-musician prog fans, the die-hards are almost always musicians in some way-- I think you may be on to something.
Edited by Atavachron - November 02 2006 at 22:44
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Ghostnote
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Posted: November 02 2006 at 22:42 |
I am a drummer, who has loved progressive rock for many years and i have noticed
that myself and other musicians i haved jammed with over the years can relate with this
style of music, but people who do not play a musical instrument do not.
So ultimitly is prog rock for musicians only?
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