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Infinity 
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 Posted: June 03 2005 at 07:35 |
 flowerchild wrote:
Infinity wrote:
The results of this discussion so far are really rather disappointing and dismal.
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Cheers and fair point Flowerchild!
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Jared
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Posted: June 03 2005 at 07:38 |
omri wrote:
Flowerchild, I'm with you ! King crimson are (most of the time) great. However, the guy did try so it's his taste.
I'm confused with this thread anyway. You got to be pretty much rated to be overrated. Now the most rated here are : Genesys, Pink floyd, Yes, King crimson, DT, Rush, Jethro Tull, Camel, VDGG, Gentle giant, Marilion, ELP & Porcupine tree. It got to be one of those.
Well, I do'nt know DT very well so I wo'nt say a word of them. From the rest - maybe Marilion ?
I'd rather speak of who is missing in that list (and ofcourse I do'nt know them all) like Renaissance, Moody blues, Kansas, Robert Wyatt.
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If that's the list to choose from for the most overrated prog band, then it has to be PT IMHO; I just don't understand what the fuss is about... and Lord knows, I've tried!!
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 03 2005 at 07:43 |
omri wrote:
Flowerchild, I'm with you ! King crimson are (most of the time) great. However, the guy did try so it's his taste.
I'm confused with this thread anyway. You got to be pretty much rated to be overrated. Now the most rated here are : Genesys, Pink floyd, Yes, King crimson, DT, Rush, Jethro Tull, Camel, VDGG, Gentle giant, Marilion, ELP & Porcupine tree. It got to be one of those.
Well, I do'nt know DT very well so I wo'nt say a word of them. From the rest - maybe Marilion ?
I'd rather speak of who is missing in that list (and ofcourse I do'nt know them all) like Renaissance, Moody blues, Kansas, Robert Wyatt.
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I'd rather list Robert Wyatt among "most underrated".
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Posted: June 03 2005 at 07:44 |
Infinity wrote:
flowerchild wrote:
Infinity wrote:
The results of this discussion so far are really rather disappointing and dismal.
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Welcome to ProgArchives
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Cheers and fair point Flowerchild!
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Cheers mate 
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Rui__
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Posted: June 03 2005 at 08:16 |
richardh wrote:
In fact all PROG ROCK is overrated.I'm off to the Britney Spears site.Bye.
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raindance
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Posted: June 03 2005 at 10:10 |
I'm pleased i'm not the only one cos I'm gonna say King Crimson as well. They've been riding on the back of their last decent album 'Red' for over thirty years. They certainly don't deserve to be called prog legends, well, at least not Mr Robert 'Boring' Fripp. This guy is so far up his own arse..... 
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MustShaveBeard
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Posted: June 03 2005 at 20:38 |
^The inventors of prog (or at least symph prog) don't deserve to be called prog legends!?!?!?!?!?!
raindance wrote:
They've been riding on the back of their last decent album 'Red' for over thirty years. |
And what have Yes, ELP, Genesis, etc. been doing? They may not have copied their classic albums all the time but they certainly made some pretty crappy music...
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Your life or your lupins!!!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 03 2005 at 20:52 |
The thread is about alleged prog bands so I'd say............Asia,hmmmmm...there not overated though are they! So........Uriah Heep I guess!
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DTFANIAM
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Posted: June 03 2005 at 20:57 |
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Supertramp (except for my favs on crime of the century)
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silentman
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Posted: June 03 2005 at 21:14 |
like one user said: Fu*k your prog conventions.  Almost everything that KC relased after '72 is miles ahead of anything Yes ever recorded (ok, Fragile comes close thou)
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: June 03 2005 at 23:09 |
Infinity wrote:
The results of this discussion so far are really rather disappointing and dismal.
Brand X, Dream Theater, Spock's Beard all getting slammed!? what for exactly?
Bands like Marillion are so much more overrated especially when I constantly read about people saying the technical proficiency/prowess/originality whatever is a mandatroy feature of prog. There's a lot of neo-prog that just doesn't feature that and not only are a lot of songs basic rock with nothing particularly unique they still get hailed as being incredible....sorry I smell a big fat contradiction in terms. Don't get me wrong, this is not a MUST requirement for me personally but the point is that band's such as Brand X, Dream Theater...will often get highly regarded due to their abilities which most certainly are obvious and present whether you like them or not.
Oh and by the way Kansas may not be the most technical band to ever exist but they don't exactly get overrated do they anyway!
Change the record someone and get some of those more positive topics rolling
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sorry i just never detected an ounce of emotion in Brand X
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penguindf12
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Posted: June 03 2005 at 23:17 |
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It's all underrated.
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bluetailfly
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Posted: June 03 2005 at 23:30 |
dalt99 wrote:
SheriffJB wrote:
Talking about who is and isn't "prog" is incredibly pompous.
Oh well, I suppose such is the mindset of the average proghole . . .
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Welcome to the boards Tom. By the way, I too am from Sacramento!
OH, by the way the most overrated? - Radiohead!
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Hey, I'm from Sacramento too! We should put together a prog festival - call it SacProg or ProgSac or something... well, mabe not...but hey good to know Sac has progheads. 
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SheriffJB
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Posted: June 04 2005 at 00:00 |
ProgSac - sounds great
Now the count of known prog fans in Sacramento is up to 3 (gettin' up there)!
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allow me to introduce myself:
My name is Tom MacMillan, I'm a high school student, and will soon be
starting an eZine which brings the worlds of modern rock, prog, and
jazz together. Or, at least, will attempt to.
With help of advertisers, a few labels, and some great musicians, BSM will be launched in early July.
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Tom MacMillan
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kirklott
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Posted: June 04 2005 at 00:21 |
Most overrated? Any band from Sweden. I've never heard a single band from Sweden I like - they're all so dark and gloomy and with cellos and that nonsense.
They have such beautiful women - why don't they just spend all their time in the sack, and forget about making music, because they suck.
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"Progressive rock is the key to the continuance of human evolution." - Charles Darwin
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DTFANIAM
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Posted: June 04 2005 at 01:30 |
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Swedish women make great meatballs!!
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John Gregs
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FishyMonkey
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Posted: June 04 2005 at 01:37 |
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Opeth is good Swedish msuic, albeit very dark.
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Logos
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Posted: June 04 2005 at 01:44 |
kirklott wrote:
Most overrated? Any band from Sweden. I've never heard a single band from Sweden I like - they're all so dark and gloomy and with cellos and that nonsense.
They have such beautiful women - why don't they just spend all their time in the sack, and forget about making music, because they suck. |
Sweden has Änglagård , TFK , Kaipa , Anekdoten, Opeth, Pain of Salvation, Samla Mammas Manna, Bo Hansson and Isildurs Bane to name a few.
Why don't you continue : name 5 good American prog bands. It's not going to be easy, eh?
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The Letter M
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Posted: June 04 2005 at 03:09 |
richardh wrote:
Rush - Just a wimpy version of Dream Theater
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Yes, Rush is a wimpy version of Dream Theater because 1974 is definitely a later year than 1989. Dream Theater came out AFTER Rush, and Rush is definitely not wimpy. For being a 3-piece band that has had the same line-up since their first American Tour, creating albums that sound like they were made from 5-piece groups, that is most certainly not being wimpy.
I think a lot of the newer Prog bands that try to emulate the sound that inspired them are a bit overrated sometimes, but it's hard to pick any specific band or group because if we could all agree on one single band, chances are, that band wouldn't have made more than 2 records.
-Marc.
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BaldJean
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Posted: June 04 2005 at 05:47 |
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You'd be amazed what one can do with a cello. I have seen Frank Wolff
of the "Frankfurter Kur Orchester" (which I think is prog!) go mad on
stage with his cello, running around while playing, imitating Jimi
Hendrix, playing the Cello behind his back. Absolutely amazing.
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