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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snow Dog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2006 at 06:14
I have a problem with this whole issue. If you mudt delete hie reviews then I feel you must delete them all and every other review written by anybody not officially registered.




Edited by Snow Dog - December 23 2006 at 06:19
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Easy Livin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2006 at 07:10
So what do you think we should so SD? Are you saying they should be deleted, or that they should all stay? It's very easy to be critical, it';s not so easy to identify the right solution, especially one which will satisfy everybody.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote progismylife Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2006 at 07:48
I think they should all stay until it is required to register to reveiw, then send an e-mail to the unregistered people telling them what is going to happen with their reviews if they don't register.

Of course that is way too time consuming. But it is an idea.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snow Dog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2006 at 07:53
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

So what do you think we should so SD? Are you saying they should be deleted, or that they should all stay? It's very easy to be critical, it';s not so easy to identify the right solution, especially one which will satisfy everybody.


Well if those already deleted reviews contravene our guidelines, well thats no problem, job done. But to me they seemed fine and you deleted them because no valis e-mail address was given. Is this right?

If the second option is correct then you must delete (or remove temporarily) all hie reviews. And also check every e-mail ptovided by non registered reviewers.

Otherwise its not vety even handed..or is it?

Am I missing something?


And it is not easy for me to be critical. I have thought about this. Its a matter oof conscience. I don't agree with all his reviews, but thats not the point. He gave Close to the Edge 3 stars, which is very reesonable.


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An e-mail will indeed be sent at that time PIML.

I would just clarify that in this case, any deletions which have been done have not simply been because of the invalid e-mail address. That is a major inconvenience in dealing with the matter, but the issue arose in the first place because of the quality of the reviews. They were highlighted by several members as being "inappropriate".
 
At the end of the day, whether or not they are inappropriate is largely down to opinion. I would ask though, is it really to the benefit of the site for someone to give one star to every album they now review (over 20 in a row), and to tear it to pieces with sweeping generalisations? Negativity has its place of course, but used to excess it becomes destructive.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snow Dog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2006 at 08:05
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

An e-mail will indeed be sent at that time PIML.

I would just clarify that in this case, any deletions which have been done have not simply been because of the invalid e-mail address. That is a major inconvenience in dealing with the matter, but the issue arose in the first place because of the quality of the reviews. They were highlighted by several members as being "inappropriate".
 
At the end of the day, whether or not they are inappropriate is largely down to opinion. I would ask though, is it really to the benefit of the site for someone to give one star to every album they now review (over 20 in a row), and to tear it to pieces with sweeping generalisations? Negativity has its place of course, but used to excess it becomes destructive.


No more tha 5 star fanboyism.
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:


Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

An e-mail will indeed be sent at that time PIML.


I would just clarify that in this case, any deletions which have been done have not simply been because of the invalid e-mail address. That is a major inconvenience in dealing with the matter, but the issue arose in the first place because of the quality of the reviews. They were highlighted by several members as being "inappropriate".

 

At the end of the day, whether or not they are inappropriate is largely down to opinion. I would ask though, is it really to the benefit of the site for someone to give one star to every album they now review (over 20 in a row), and to tear it to pieces with sweeping generalisations? Negativity has its place of course, but used to excess it becomes destructive.

No more tha 5 star fanboyism.

    
Which is also why some of those are or should be deleted. This site tries to keep an average view of what the members/reviewers like to listen to.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Easy Livin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2006 at 11:22
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Well if those already deleted reviews contravene our guidelines, well thats no problem, job done. But to me they seemed fine and you deleted them because no valis e-mail address was given. Is this right?

 
No, we we would not delete a review just because the e-mail address was invalid. We don't have the time or resources to check all the addresses are valid anyway. The only reason we became aware the address was invalid was because some of the reviews were being considered for deletion. We wanted to try to find a way of avoiding this by discussing with the reviewer how they could be improved.
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Originally posted by progismylife progismylife wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:


Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

An e-mail will indeed be sent at that time PIML.


I would just clarify that in this case, any deletions which have been done have not simply been because of the invalid e-mail address. That is a major inconvenience in dealing with the matter, but the issue arose in the first place because of the quality of the reviews. They were highlighted by several members as being "inappropriate".

 

At the end of the day, whether or not they are inappropriate is largely down to opinion. I would ask though, is it really to the benefit of the site for someone to give one star to every album they now review (over 20 in a row), and to tear it to pieces with sweeping generalisations? Negativity has its place of course, but used to excess it becomes destructive.

No more tha 5 star fanboyism.

    
Which is also why some of those are or should be deleted. This site tries to keep an average view of what the members/reviewers like to listen to.
 
Not right.
Several 1-star reviews in a row is not the same as several 5-star reviews in a row if such website as PA is concerned:
1. Majority of PA visitors are progrock fans, so their evaluations are always far higher than average of 3. Just look at average rating of some 200 top albums and you''ll see that it is above 4.
2. Majority of newbie to the site usually start reviewing albums they most like ore hate. Because they are progrock lovers it is more likely there would be more 5-star reviews in a row than 1-star.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Toccata Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2006 at 11:53
And that's why the case with psycho's 1-star reviews was immediatelly noticed by large number of visitors. Then, naturally, those of his with 5-stars caught attention.
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Originally posted by Toccata Toccata wrote:

Originally posted by progismylife progismylife wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:


An e-mail will indeed be sent at that time PIML.


I would just clarify that in this case, any deletions which have been done have not simply been because of the invalid e-mail address. That is a major inconvenience in dealing with the matter, but the issue arose in the first place because of the quality of the reviews. They were highlighted by several members as being "inappropriate".

 

At the end of the day, whether or not they are inappropriate is largely down to opinion. I would ask though, is it really to the benefit of the site for someone to give one star to every album they now review (over 20 in a row), and to tear it to pieces with sweeping generalisations? Negativity has its place of course, but used to excess it becomes destructive.
No more tha 5 star fanboyism.
      Which is also why some of those are or should be deleted. This site tries to keep an average view of what the members/reviewers like to listen to.

 

Not right.

Several 1-star reviews in a row is not the same as several 5-star reviews in a row if such website as PA is concerned:

1. Majority of PA visitors are progrock fans, so their evaluations are always far higher than average of 3. Just look at average rating of some 200 top albums and you''ll see that it is above 4.

2. Majority of newbie to the site usually start reviewing albums they most like ore hate. Because they are progrock lovers it is more likely there would be more 5-star reviews in a row than 1-star.

    
Thanks for clarifying that.
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^^ How do you do that?
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...Copy/Paste.
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With the links and the stars and stuff. Thats what I meant.
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....Copy/Paste

That's all I do.


Here's another one from JethrieD.  He/She only has three reviews and they're all terrible....

Magical Mystery Tour (US Version)

1967

Studio Album

Review | Album details | All reviews


Review by JethrieD
Posted 1:22:32 PM EST, 12/23/2006

5 stars I really like this album, great prog album and also great songs.



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That person joined today about an hour ago! Didn't they read the guidelines?
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PORCUPINE TREE — XM Live

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1 stars Actually this is a bootleg - a transcription of a radio show we did on XM - album tracks with me talking (no doubt absolute nonsense as usual) in between. Ive never seen a copy so I don't know who put this out, but are you supposed to have bootlegs on here?

SW

Posted Sunday, December 24, 2006, 06:10 EST

Seems Mr Wilson has a point! This CD appears to be a boot version of the official XM with various interview sections retained from the broadcast. It was issued by Ministry Of Information .... you can see it here http://www.ministry-of-information.co.uk/trade/cover.htm

The album needs to be removed from the PA database




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Wow, that belongs in the forums, not the reviews archives. Whoever "Steven" is, he's a noob. Tongue




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Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

Bootleg not supposed to be here... Confused. Added May. 2005, first 2 reviews done today. To be discarded.

"steven" is THE Steve Wilson! Wink
 


Cool!


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While it's bad writen I believe it should stay. It's trying to make clear that this collectionn was probably made by a guy not really into magma. I think it's a strong way to keep you a way from a bad cd. Smile

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