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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2007 at 02:21
Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

Ever heard of Corte Dei Miracoli, Jimmy  Row? See my review on this site, you will be excited after reading it and even more hungry to get it Wink And Alphataurus their eponymous album and Gli Alluminogeni their first, lots of blues and Hammond organ (my #2 favorite vintage keyboard Clap), again see my reviews on this site!
Strangely I missed this earlier (all these bands flying aroundWackoBig%20smile)
 
I've heard of Corte Dei Miracoli - they're on my list simply because...they're Italian; I'll check your review. I've listened to Alphataurus, and it's brilliant.  Maybe not heavy or bluesy but exactly the vintage keys sound that I crave (if I can recall there's a 15-20 minute suite on there with all kinds of hammond/mellotron exercises)
 
Don't know Gli Alluminogeni, I'll check your review there too.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2007 at 06:33
Can't add much to what Dick said; I would have chosen the same albums. However, I'll suggest a band and album called Armageddon which I got recently. I think they emerged from the original line-up of Renaissance (before Annie Haslam etc.); it's a largely heavy rock album but with some prog moments here and there (a 12 minute epic rounds it off). Was playing it yesterday and the production is fairly poor in parts but it's well worth a listen.
 
Stray MIGHT fit the bill too; the first three albums are primarily heavy rock albums (Stray, Suicide, Saturday Morning Pictures) but I think they have some prog moments here and there, IMHO of course. Perhaps the two May Blitz albums too?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2007 at 11:17
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

However, I'll suggest a band and album called Armageddon which I got recently. I think they emerged from the original line-up of Renaissance (before Annie Haslam etc.); it's a largely heavy rock album but with some prog moments here and there (a 12 minute epic rounds it off). Was playing it yesterday and the production is fairly poor in parts but it's well worth a listen.

A nice call: Keith Ralf  with ?? (Medicine Head, a duo signed to John Peel's Dandelion label, I seem to recall??) - therefore perhaps the Yardbirds connection is more relevant than Renaissance...???


Stray MIGHT fit the bill too; the first three albums are primarily heavy rock albums (Stray, Suicide, Saturday Morning Pictures) but I think they have some prog moments here and there, IMHO of course. Perhaps the two May Blitz albums too?

Yes why not, Stray perhaps more than May Blitz......



Is suggesting the Baker Gurvitz Army going too far......? Even tempted to suggest Mayall's Bare Wires album
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2007 at 12:54
I should definitely check out QuatermassBig%20smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2007 at 14:48
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

Can't add much to what Dick said; I would have chosen the same albums. However, I'll suggest a band and album called Armageddon which I got recently. I think they emerged from the original line-up of Renaissance (before Annie Haslam etc.); it's a largely heavy rock album but with some prog moments here and there (a 12 minute epic rounds it off). Was playing it yesterday and the production is fairly poor in parts but it's well worth a listen.
I know this one cooks if Keith Relf plays on it, the man had talent (I imagine this project was not long before he sadly passed away) 
Stray MIGHT fit the bill too; the first three albums are primarily heavy rock albums (Stray, Suicide, Saturday Morning Pictures) but I think they have some prog moments here and there, IMHO of course. Perhaps the two May Blitz albums too? Never heard of these two....having a rough time finding anything from Stray; found some sound clips of May Blitz, seems very dated but it's in the right direction none the less, maybe not much "prog" in it so to speak.  I'll keep a look out for Armageddon.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2007 at 14:53
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

However, I'll suggest a band and album called Armageddon which I got recently. I think they emerged from the original line-up of Renaissance (before Annie Haslam etc.); it's a largely heavy rock album but with some prog moments here and there (a 12 minute epic rounds it off). Was playing it yesterday and the production is fairly poor in parts but it's well worth a listen.

A nice call: Keith Ralf  with ?? (Medicine Head, a duo signed to John Peel's Dandelion label, I seem to recall??) - therefore perhaps the Yardbirds connection is more relevant than Renaissance...???


Stray MIGHT fit the bill too; the first three albums are primarily heavy rock albums (Stray, Suicide, Saturday Morning Pictures) but I think they have some prog moments here and there, IMHO of course. Perhaps the two May Blitz albums too?

Yes why not, Stray perhaps more than May Blitz......



Is suggesting the Baker Gurvitz Army going too far......? Even tempted to suggest Mayall's Bare Wires album
Baker Gurvitz Army?  I take it that is a Ginger Baker project, so I'll expect lots of bluesy jamming and near-virtuosic instrumentation.  I'm a fan of Baker so it's inevitable that I will come to this one eventually (...truth be told I'm still yet to fully explore Cream's back catalogueEmbarrassed)
 
Mayall?  Now we're talking...not any prog to speak of, but I'm also a Mayall fan though the only one I'm comfortably familiar with is Bluesbreakers.  Barewires must be the one were Mick Taylor came in...a might jazzy that one is if I can recall correctly (a good thing in my book).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2007 at 14:54
thanks again for responses, I'll post the one's I can find cheaply enough when I have time to lookSmile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2007 at 20:37
Well I already have more than enough bands to explore but I keep bumping into more....can't help my curiosity so here's more blues/heavy/progressive groups;
 
I've heard very little to nothing from them so it would help if you could give opinions if anyone has heard these:
 
Bram Stoker
Bloodrock
Zerfas
Tucky Buzzard
Fuzzy Duck
Iron Butterfly
Arc
Dear Mr. Time
Raw Material
Titus Groan
 
Hopefully there's at least a couple ringers out of those; I have a preference for the heavier and more complex bands (a lot in this style can be derivative and lack uniqueness)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2007 at 23:13
Originally posted by jimmy_row jimmy_row wrote:

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I was thinking the Blind Faith's one and only album might also be worth checking out for the style of music you are chasing, though probably more mainstream blues-rock. With messers Clapton, Winwood & Baker you can't really go wrong ... and there are proto-prog-type touches here and there.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2007 at 07:24
Originally posted by jimmy_row jimmy_row wrote:

Baker Gurvitz Army?  I take it that is a Ginger Baker project, so I'll expect lots of bluesy jamming and near-virtuosic instrumentation.  I'm a fan of Baker so it's inevitable that I will come to this one eventually (...truth be told I'm still yet to fully explore Cream's back catalogueEmbarrassed)
 
Mayall?  Now we're talking...not any prog to speak of, but I'm also a Mayall fan though the only one I'm comfortably familiar with is Bluesbreakers.  Barewires must be the one were Mick Taylor came in...a might jazzy that one is if I can recall correctly (a good thing in my book).


Baker Gurvitz Army is a band I listen to now - and I've made the mistake of buying a belatedly released live album to add to an old vinyl recording - and disliking most of what I hear. Too few good tunes - although those that work have the added force of a powered up Baker on drums. The Gurvitz brothers were the core of the short lived late 60's British rock group Gun - with a pretty good, one hit wonder, Race With The Devil.

Mick Taylor first appeared with the Bluesbreakers on  Diary Of  A Band Volume 1Volume 2 and - Decca Record sold the set as separate LPs! Quality is rather bootleg - but Mayall seemed to record his band at all gigs from the mid 60s, although his recording equipment left something to be desired. (BTW There is a worse quality, legit live  recording of the BBs with Clapton and Bruce, pre-Cream.) What is so good about Diary of A Band, is that Mayall finds space across the LPs to illustrate the progression of Taylor as a guitarist during that tour - have to mention Dick Heckstall-Smith also shines as a lead instrumentalist.  The Bare Wire LP features a connected suite of songs, ie. the  Bare Wires - a sort of but not quite concept blues record.

Coincidentally John Mayall was on BBC Radio 4 this morning apparently being interviewed about the "Hotel California music and business scene" in LA (by BBC Radio One Chief Programme Controller). To reflect the shallowness of this radio series - Barney Hoskins' book and associated BBC TV 4 series have done it so much better - all Mayall was allowed to say was about the destruction of 21 homes in Laurel Canyon in the early 70's ... nothing about the music. The main thing I've gained from this series is  that the controller of Radio One is an Eagles freak!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2007 at 07:36
Originally posted by jimmy_row jimmy_row wrote:

Well I already have more than enough bands to explore but I keep bumping into more....can't help my curiosity so here's more blues/heavy/progressive groups;
 
I've heard very little to nothing from them so it would help if you could give opinions if anyone has heard these:
 
Bram Stoker
Bloodrock
Zerfas
Tucky Buzzard
Fuzzy Duck
Iron Butterfly
Arc
Dear Mr. Time
Raw Material
Titus Groan
 
Hopefully there's at least a couple ringers out of those; I have a preference for the heavier and more complex bands (a lot in this style can be derivative and lack uniqueness)


Check out PA's compilation section for the late60's/early 70's compilations released by British record labels in the last 5 years, which may reveal samples of some of these bands:

Legend Of  A Mind (Decca/Deram)
Strangely Strange Oddly Peculiar (Island)
Ars Longa  Vita Brevis (Castle Communication)
Time Machine (Vertigo)
All Good Clean Fun (Liberty/UA0
Breath Of Fresh Air (Harvest)

As soon as I typed the last title, I am reminded of Pete Brown (Jack Bruce's lyricist) various bands - Harvest Records issued a compilation in the last two years Living Life Backwards. With Graham Bond, Chris Spedding, Dick Heckstall-Smith in various of these line-ups, expect something interesting.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Living-Life-Backwards-Best-Brown/dp/B000CBVMG8/ref=sr_1_2/026-9761107-6138031?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1185622493&sr=1-2
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2007 at 10:01

Do not expect much out of Baker Gurvitz Army. I had two of their albums- the debut and 'Hearts On Fire'- and there was not much virtuosity (apart from tedious drum solos), just fairly bland AOR, IMHO. Three Man Army were never more than second division either BUT they are better and more in line with what you are looking for, imho. 'A Third Of A Lifetime' is quite decent.

Remembered another band I have; Toe Fat. The first album is just standard heavy rock (featuring two members of Uriah Heep, Ken Hensley and Lee Kerslake, John Glascock later of Jethro Tull and Cliff Bennett, a 60s R & B singer) but the second
is a little bit more bluesy and progressive-oriented too. I think one song features Peter Green on guitar, too, although Hensley and Kerslake had gone by then.
 
AFAIK, the rest of the John Mayall back catalogue is due for release in remastered and expanded form. Some were done last year (the Bluesbreakers w/Clapton album was an excellent 2 disc set, and featured the aforementioned gig with Clapton/Bruce, I think?).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2007 at 10:20
Jimmy Row, here are my reviews about Fuzzy Duck and Bram Stoker, both albums contain very pleasant Hammond organ work Thumbs%20Up:
 

FUZZY DUCK — Fuzzy Duck

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3%20stars This is one of the many harder-edged and organ dominated progressive bands that emerged in the early Seventies. FUZZY DUCK’s music is simple but it touches me very much: pleasant vocals, a tight rhythm-section, strong guitarwork and, the most delightful element, floods of Hammond organ. This reminds me of Ken Hensley from early URIAH HEEP and Manfred Wieczorke from German heavy progressive band JANE. The guitarplay is also a good point, featuring fiery solos and catchy riffs. The final song “A word from bid D” includes the so called ‘ducking vocals’ from keyboardplayer Roy (Daze) Sharland, very funny to hear. FUZZY DUCK’s music has echoes from ATOMIC ROOSTER, SPENCER DAVIES GROUP, VANILLA FUDGE and QUATERMASS. If you like the Hammond organ, don’t miss this CD! By the way, I own the “Aftermath” CD version, it contains 11 tracks, including the previously unreleased “No Name Face”.

 

BRAM STOKER — Heavy Rock Spectacular / Schizo-Poltergeist

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4%20stars Here is a gem from the Early British Progressive Rock Movement, unfortunately it was both a painstaking as a hardly impossible task to find information from this elusive band. Bram Stoker was a one shot band that released their album in 1972 under the title Heavy Rock Spectacular. In 1999 the label Audio Archive released the album with the same tracks but a different cover (to be seen along with this review) as a reissue CD, a year later the label Black Widow released it with the original artwork and in 2003 the label Akarma released it as CD reissue in a mini LP gatefold sleeve.

The eight melodic and dynamic compositions are Hammond organ drenched, the electric guitar is often distorted (fuzz) delivering some fiery soli but in general it is on the background. Bram Stoker their sound has elements from Atomic Rooster (Born to be free), ELP (Fast decay) and often Beggar's Opera, mainly due to the classical organ sound (for example Bach's Toccata In D-Fuga in Fast Decay and the long Fingal's Cave) and the pleasant vocals. The track Blitz has some Spanish flavored guitar undertones and sounds a bit dark. The final, horror-like song Poltergeist features floods of classical inspired organ. IF YOU LIKE HAMMOND DRENCHED SEVENTIES PROGROCK, I HIGHLY RECOMMENDED THIS CD!!

 
                                                               

                       


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2007 at 11:45
sheesh, all the knowledge in here....I feel like such a youngster.LOL
 
Let's see here, Blind Faith:  it's been a while since I've heard this, I think I have some of the songs on various compilations....ah yes, Prescence of the Lord - that's a great track, beautiful Leslie-drenched solo from Clapton.  There's a new edition on cd with an extra cd of bonuses, lots of Clapton/Winwood jamming in their prime.  I'll have to check that out some time.
 
I've found this deluxe edition of the Bluesbreakers on Amazon (a bit pricey though, I'll have to find it used), I'll dig into that one for sure this fall/winter when I go on my annual blues-rock spree; I'm also curious about the Diary of a Band compilation, I'll look forward to a lot of grade A bluesrockThumbs%20Up  I like what I hear as per Pete Brown, strong resemblence to the old Cream style, great guitar playing (I can hear Graham Bond's keys in there too), I'll look for this one for sure.  Perhaps I'll also find time to dive into Jeff Beck, I've been meaning to do that for some time...
 
 
erik:  great reviews; the list of comparisons for Fuzzy Duck looks excellent.  I believe they have a page on Myspace so I'll be able to sample some material.  I look forward to that wonderful hammond sound.  Bram Stoker:  now that name just sounds heavy; this one will probably be difficult to come by but I'll find what info I can.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2007 at 11:48
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Coincidentally John Mayall was on BBC Radio 4 this morning apparently being interviewed about the "Hotel California music and business scene" in LA (by BBC Radio One Chief Programme Controller). To reflect the shallowness of this radio series - Barney Hoskins' book and associated BBC TV 4 series have done it so much better - all Mayall was allowed to say was about the destruction of 21 homes in Laurel Canyon in the early 70's ... nothing about the music. The main thing I've gained from this series is  that the controller of Radio One is an Eagles freak!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2007 at 11:52
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

Remembered another band I have; Toe Fat. The first album is just standard heavy rock (featuring two members of Uriah Heep, Ken Hensley and Lee Kerslake, John Glascock later of Jethro Tull and Cliff Bennett, a 60s R & B singer) but the second

is a little bit more bluesy and progressive-oriented too. I think one song features Peter Green on guitar, too, although Hensley and Kerslake had gone by then.
 
I've heard of Toe Fat from my Uriah Heep days...wasn't aware they actually recorded anything with Hensley in the band (shows what I know).  I assume this formation was before The Gods if Pete Green was later then Hensley/Kerslake?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2007 at 12:08
Interesting topic Jimmy. Like others have said, the first one that comes to mind is Quatermass. We also shouldn't forget Atomic Rooster. They were part of that heavy, keyboard driven movement of British bands in the early '70s.

Coming soon (hopefully) to PA, is a new band from the U.S. called Contrarian. I'll have more about them later.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2007 at 14:07
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

Cliff Bennett, a 60s R & B singer


Have to remember ,for 'lending' the Beatles the Rebel Rousers to brass rock back Gotta Get You Into My Life (on Revolver), the Beatles allowed Cliff Bennett & The RRs to cover the tune as a single - became a minor hit.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2007 at 14:14
Originally posted by jimmy_row jimmy_row wrote:

  I like what I hear as per Pete Brown, strong resemblence to the old Cream style, great guitar playing (I can hear Graham Bond's keys in there too), I'll look for this one for sure. 

Perhaps I'll also find time to dive into Jeff Beck, I've been meaning to do that for some time...


You should hear the deconstruction job his does on his tune Politician (and of course it was also  Jack Bruce's!!!)

Beck  certainly, but a tad drifting from the original objectives? Truth, Cosa Nostra Beckola, the so-called 'Orange' album (strictly The Jeff Beck Group), Rough &Ready and Beck Bogert and Appice, all have a lot of good stuff. Listen to the first two and wonder if Led Zeppelin followed  Beck or vice versa?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2007 at 16:52
Captain Beefheart is an excellent example of complex bluesy prog.
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