Peter Gabriel Is In Crossover!!!

 

For what it is worth, I personally find the various genres and sub-genres are useful as a guide to give an idea of bands that might be similar in sound or character to bands that I already know, but obviously due to limitations you can end up with bands that are completely unrelated being included in the same genre.  It has been beaten to death in many a thread regarding how by their very nature there are many a prog band that defy categorization.  I feel that the Collaborators do a good job with what they have to work with regarding bands and genres.  As I read it, their goal is to try and keep a sub-genre into more manageable groupings.  Unfortunately, based on their categorizations the Art-Rock group consisted of 800 plus bands and it was decided that it was time to try and re-group into smaller more manageable groups.  I certainly can understand this and don't have a problem with it.  Admittedly, I don't fully understand the new categories and what they represent but hopefully with time I will get to understand them and I will benefit from these more compact groupings.  In all reality, if their goal was to group the bands into a category with a similar band, they could end up with 400 subgenres with only 1 or 2 bands each.

 

That being said, I agree with the previous poster that Peter Gabriel's solo music didn't just all of a sudden become more proggier because he was moved from Prog-related to Crossover prog.  It has just been deemed to be a better category for him. 

 

To all of the Collabs, thank you for all of your hard work in making this site such a wonderful resource for us prog rock afficianados to find new and old bands alike. 

Oh...that explains why I've reviewed a crossover album. I was worried, you know.

 

Atavachron wrote:     great move ..and I wouldn't worry about Zep in Heavy.. they weren't prog (and I'm a Ledhead from way back)

 

(Psst! You move 'em to Heavy, and I've got this real keen Stairway to sell you!)

 

It was kind of a joke.  Basically I was reuniting the band members of these two classic bands by saying they should all be grouped together in a similar genre "former prog band members".  Hence the winking smiley face.  However, I am all in favor of the addition of Queen and Iron Maiden to the site.  I am only familiar with BOC's "hits" so I don't pass judgement there.

No Rushfan, I know that, i wrote the prog Related definition that was approved by M@X and the Adm Team.

 

Prog Related is the category that groups bands and artists that: - Without being 100% Prog, received clear MUSICAL influence of this genre, OR - Are widely accepted as MUSICALLY influential to the development of Progressive Rock by the community, OR - Blend characteristics of Progressive Rock with mainstream elements creating a final product that despite not being part of the genre is evident that are close to Prog. We specify the word MUSICAL because simple performance of a determined instrument in a Prog or mainstream band is not justification enough to include an artist, no matter how virtuoso he/she may be, Prog Archives has to evaluate their compositional work because the music is what determines the characteristics of a band or an artist. (...) Melgar Morey http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp#38

 

There are three separete conditions that allow a band to be added, being part of a Prog band is not one of them. As a fact in the other parragraph it's specified that the simple performance in a Prog band doesn't give the artist the quality opf Perog Related.

 

The inclusion of an artist is only for MUSICAL/COMPOSITIONAL reasons, so Mike & The Mechanics or Phil Collins don't have a place here because in their solo work they never wrote a single Prog related note.

 

Iván

 

 

 

That's a good question, but if I had to answer honestly, I would say yes. Simply because his first few albums were highly influenced by Genesis(some songs on PG 1 sound like they could have been written by the band), and they fit snuggly under the prog rock genre.

 

However, if Peter had started his career at So, his music wouldn't be (and shouldn't be) considered prog (with a few exceptions.)

You also have to consider his other albums, such as Birdy, The Passion, Rabbit Proof Fence and Ovo, while not being pop or rock, they do come under the prog umberella.