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rushfan4 
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 Posted: September 28 2007 at 09:40 |
 Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
rushfan4 wrote:
Hi Ivan:
I believe that you overexaggerate with your comment about neither Mike or Phil writing a single prog note in their solo careers, but I also agree that neither of them are prog and that neither of them belong on Prog Archives.
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Never said Mike's solo career, I believe Smallcreeps Day could fit in PR, but Phil Collins necer made a prog song inn his solo career.
On the other hand, just explaining the point, because I heard this position repeatedly, I can't guess when something is a joke or is said seriously.
But don't worry not a Genesis Montreal thread, i'm also tired of that one.
Iván
BTW: If you noticed I have not posted a single time to support or not the Peter Gabriel movement to Crossover, so my position has nothing to do here. |
Hi Ivan:
Possibly a language barrier issue. "Tongue in cheek" is a term used to indicate that the comment is meant humorously. I apologize that that wasn't clearer and caused a Misundertanding (Prog or non-prog Genesis song???). 
My reference to Mike's solo career was an error on my part in which I should have referred to Mike + the Mechanics instead of his solo career. I am familiar with Acting Strangely Fine, but I have yet to hear Smallcreep's Day in order to pass judgement on that album.
As regards to Peter Gabriel's placement into Crossover Prog, I have no arguments with this change. Again in my mind, the difference between what qualifies as Prog Related and what qualifies as Crossover Prog is both subtle and subjective. One difference being that Crossover Prog is kind of a term of endearment whereas Prog Related is kind of a term of scorn (term of compromise); sort of an "Ok, fine will add the band to PA to appease the masses but we really don't think that they're actually prog but we don't want a revolution on our hands". And please, this is not a criticism it is just my lowly observation.
Edited by rushfan4 - September 28 2007 at 18:45
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: September 30 2007 at 09:19 |
Peter Gabriel is a crossdresser? Whaaaaaa? 
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: September 30 2007 at 09:21 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
rushfan4 wrote:
Hi Ivan:
I believe that you overexaggerate with your comment about neither Mike or Phil writing a single prog note in their solo careers, but I also agree that neither of them are prog and that neither of them belong on Prog Archives.
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Never said Mike's solo career, I believe Smallcreeps Day could fit in PR, but Phil Collins necer made a prog song inn his solo career.
On the other hand, just explaining the point, because I heard this position repeatedly, I can't guess when something is a joke or is said seriously.
But don't worry not a Genesis Montreal thread, i'm also tired of that one.
Iván
BTW: If you noticed I have not posted a single time to support or not the Peter Gabriel movement to Crossover, so my position has nothing to do here. |
Hmm, can a single note by itself actually be prog? 
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: September 30 2007 at 14:11 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
Hmm, can a single note by itself actually be prog?
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Well, until I knew Hyperbole was a valid figure of speech. 
Iván
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - September 30 2007 at 14:11
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explodingjosh
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Posted: October 02 2007 at 23:27 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
Peter Gabriel is a crossdresser? Whaaaaaa?
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He looks beautiful in a red dress.
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progcabaretdoll
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Posted: October 03 2007 at 10:06 |
explodingjosh wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Peter Gabriel is a crossdresser? Whaaaaaa? |
He looks beautiful in a red dress.
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Yeah. *droooling*
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ProgBagel
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Posted: October 06 2007 at 23:02 |
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It's the man's rightful place.
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Ghandi 2
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Posted: October 07 2007 at 00:02 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
rushfan4 wrote:
Hi Ivan:
I believe that you overexaggerate with your comment about neither Mike or Phil writing a single prog note in their solo careers, but I also agree that neither of them are prog and that neither of them belong on Prog Archives.
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Never said Mike's solo career, I believe Smallcreeps Day could fit in PR, but Phil Collins necer made a prog song inn his solo career.
On the other hand, just explaining the point, because I heard this position repeatedly, I can't guess when something is a joke or is said seriously.
But don't worry not a Genesis Montreal thread, i'm also tired of that one.
Iván
BTW: If you noticed I have not posted a single time to support or not the Peter Gabriel movement to Crossover, so my position has nothing to do here. |
Hmm, can a single note by itself actually be prog?
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If you played it for 2 hours, that'd be pretty prog.
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rushfan4
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Posted: October 07 2007 at 00:15 |
^ To be more specific I think that would be post-rock.
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