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Fassbinder 
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VIP Member Joined: May 27 2006 Location: My world Status: Offline Points: 3497 |
 Posted: November 06 2007 at 09:42 |
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Like Ghost Rider and NotAProghead said -- I like music in any language as long it is performed well. I tend to see a voice as an additional instrument. Lyrics may be important, but I care for an overall sound much more than for meaning (I know it might lead to the situation when I'll find myself enjoying an utter rubbish sung well, but in a language I don't understand, accompanied by some great music...) Unpleasant singing may spoil even the strong musical piece. Also I find that I prefer instrumental passages in compositions to lyrical ones, and as much time they last the better.
Sometimes I'd simply prefer not to understand the lyrics, however... it happens mostly when the lyrics in my native language.
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paloz
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Joined: February 17 2007 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 329 |
Posted: November 06 2007 at 10:52 |
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If music is good, any language (even the ones who don't exist - Magma, Sigur Rņs' ( ) ) is good to me.
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rushfan4
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2007 Location: Michigan, U.S. Status: Offline Points: 66921 |
Posted: November 06 2007 at 11:02 |
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For me, my preference is in English which is the only language I understand. Although with my brief foray into the RPI that was streaming on the website, the music was pretty good, but it didn't really grab a hold of me as music with good lyrics that I understand does. Interestingly enough, I was listening to Amputecture this morning for the first time and although I wasn't paying much attention to the lyrics, the ones that were sung in English seemed to be kind of dumb to be honest. Then there was a really beautiful ballad with some beautiful singing in Spanish. I was disappointed because I had no idea what was being sung but on first impression it was the best song on the album. |
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Philip
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Joined: June 13 2007 Location: Porto, Portugal Status: Offline Points: 413 |
Posted: November 06 2007 at 12:51 |
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It's better in a language that I minimally understand. First option. Thanks to the great concepts of prog music that make me develop my english and to fully enjoy the music.
Magma is different, i don't understand, but that's their style and i think we don't need to understand their language, Kobaļan.
I think we should try to make the first Kobaļan dictionary. It would be nice to see in a bookshop: Dictionaries - Kobaļan -English Edited by Philip - November 17 2007 at 18:26 |
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puma
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Joined: April 15 2007 Location: Boston, MA Status: Offline Points: 484 |
Posted: November 06 2007 at 14:35 |
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I rarely listen to the lyrics anyway, I listen to the instruments, to me the vocals are an afterthought. Which is why I'm terrible at writing vocal lines in my own music...
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andrea
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Joined: May 20 2005 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 2082 |
Posted: November 06 2007 at 14:59 |
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Just a quote from an article about prog and foreign languages...
"Not to be defeatist, but it's a foregone conclusion that progressive rock, or this neo-progressive music, has largely become the domain of hardcore fans and independent labels that exist independently of the majors, and elude coverage in the popular press. A bid to sing in English can't do much to change the situation. I think what they need (and what fans want) is a return to using their mother language, to strengthen the connection to their own culture. Many of these bands probably envy the Anglo/American groups, whose native language is English, and don't realize that we envy their vastly rich cultural heritage"
here you can find the complete text...
Personally I prefer listen to lyrics in "native language" (with the translation in the booklet)
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NotAProghead
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Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 8098 |
Posted: November 06 2007 at 16:53 |
The same with me. If I understand some words or phrases, it helps to draw some picture in my head. The picture can be wrong, but it makes listening much more interesting.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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el böthy
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Joined: April 27 2005 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 6336 |
Posted: November 06 2007 at 18:06 |
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In any language, its great to understand it, of course... but sometimes its fun not to do so too. Like Kobaian... its damn funny, specially cause sometimes it sounds like german mixed with spanish and some english too, so you can make up what they are saying...
"Marvin es mujer... Marvin es mujer" jejeje, thats funny |
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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moreitsythanyou
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VIP Member Joined: April 23 2006 Location: NYC Status: Offline Points: 11682 |
Posted: November 06 2007 at 18:07 |
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As long as the vocals are good, language doesn't matter. In fact, I appreciate the diversity.
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Dean
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Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: November 06 2007 at 18:33 |
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All I can say is: The Cocteau Twins ... Liz Fraser sings in English yet no one can understand what she is singing - all the listener picks up on is the pure emotion of her voice. Bliss. |
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What?
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andu
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Joined: September 27 2006 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 3089 |
Posted: November 06 2007 at 18:41 |
Yeah, well, after heavy listening to Thom Yorke, you need this philosophy or else you perish   |
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andu
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Joined: September 27 2006 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 3089 |
Posted: November 06 2007 at 18:44 |
True - btw, you can check out the sample at this band: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2344, the guy sings in Romanian and I don't understand what he says, still he is one of my favourite vocalists and the album is in my personal top ten! |
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ghost_of_morphy
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Joined: March 08 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2755 |
Posted: November 06 2007 at 21:15 |
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Since I prefer PFM in the original Italian, I had to vote in any language. I do wish that Magma had recorded their best albums in a known language, though. Edited by ghost_of_morphy - November 06 2007 at 21:17 |
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Lonely Progger
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Joined: March 07 2007 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 100 |
Posted: November 07 2007 at 04:27 |
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Music in any language,it can be nice to listen to a song in spanish because your just listening to the notes and let's say the simple emotions happy,sad,angry,desperate, but i do thing some languages are more musical than others. French isn't a very nice singing language i think.
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Lost in the south of france:
" Le rock progressif ? C'est quoi cette connerie? " |
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zbida
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Joined: January 16 2006 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 748 |
Posted: November 07 2007 at 04:45 |
Right. A perfect candidate for last option of the poll.
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A B Negative
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Joined: May 02 2006 Location: Methil Republic Status: Offline Points: 1594 |
Posted: November 07 2007 at 05:24 |
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Some languages are better suited to certain styles of music. I prefer Peter Gabriel's fourth solo album sung in German, and the sound of Kobaiian suits Magma's music perfectly (plus I've got an idea that I'd find Magma's lyrics infuriatingly cheesy if they were in English).
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"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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Spacemac
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Joined: June 15 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 1626 |
Posted: November 07 2007 at 09:02 |
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Music in any language
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FunnyWays
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Joined: October 23 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 69 |
Posted: November 07 2007 at 17:18 |
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The question is prefer so I'd have to say its better to understand but listen to stuff I don't understand it and some is great. |
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darksideof
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Joined: February 22 2007 Location: Newark N.J. Status: Offline Points: 2318 |
Posted: November 08 2007 at 11:10 |
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IF I would voted option 1 "Music in a language you understand" I would never got into Prog at all because English is my second language and Spanish my first. I had no idea what the lyrics were about when I started listening to prog at age 14 , 23 years ago. However I understand what you mean that you want to listen music in the language that you understand. Because of I have no idea when Roger water meant when he sang" All we are just a brick in the wall" I was so curious enough to learn English.I wanted to know and be able to undestand.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: November 08 2007 at 22:58 |
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I like when they are in english only so I can follow the lyrics (especially if its an emotional song...adds a special quality).
That said, it really doesn't matter to me. I like music sung in any language, and other some are really beautiful on their own, so its all good.
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