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Padraic
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 21:38 |
Chameleon wrote:
the way the world (as it) is today. |
lol art baers
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Leningrad
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 18:09 |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 18:01 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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IVNORD
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 17:53 |
Chameleon wrote:
The world would be a much better place if everyone read more Kropotkin.  |
Are you sure of that?
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IVNORD
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 17:52 |
stonebeard wrote:
Although, reconsidering his statement there, if applied to only government officials...people elected to serve the country, state or whatever, then I guess that would be a good thing. He's said stuff about self-sacrifice for country before, though, which I am way wary of. |
And what did you think he'd been referring to? George Washington politics?
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Leningrad
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 15:04 |
The world would be a much better place if everyone read more Kropotkin.
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stonebeard
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 14:56 |
Although, reconsidering his statement there, if applied to only government officials...people elected to serve the country, state or whatever, then I guess that would be a good thing. He's said stuff about self-sacrifice for country before, though, which I am way wary of.
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laplace
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 14:46 |
me too
I was reading a thread last night, somewhere or other, that was running commentary on the DNC thing and everyone was very enthused and inspired about the Democrats. today I watched short clips of it on the news and it came of as absolute idiocy - total pandering soundbyte morontopia. and Obama is considered a great candidate
politics everywhere are such a candy mess and democracy's to blame =P
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Leningrad
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 14:40 |
laplace wrote:
hahaha having McCain pass on from old age leaving this nobody in charge of Failland should be quite funny |
I'd vote McCain just to see this happen.
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laplace
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 14:37 |
hahaha having McCain pass on from old age leaving this nobody in charge of Failland should be quite funny
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Leningrad
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 14:26 |
Fascism lives.
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stonebeard
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 14:07 |
About that woman McCain chose for whatever: "She's exactly who this country needs to help me fight the same old
Washington politics of me first and country second," the presumptive
Republican nominee said at a Dayton, Ohio, rally of about 15,000
supporters, who welcomed the surprise pick of the relatively unknown
politician with cheers and flags.  R--- R----R----RAGE!!!!!!  f**k you so much, McCain. I hate you for that.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: August 14 2008 at 17:28 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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JJLehto
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Posted: August 08 2008 at 22:19 |
Eh, I'm probably just projecting and she's an easy target. Point is, my confidence in the Dems = not very high
I really don't see how Barack can lose the election, it's true. I just hope they don't find a way to blow it
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Padraic
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Posted: August 08 2008 at 21:49 |
JJLehto wrote:
Something about making sure her supporters voices are heard...I don't know it sounded alot to me like shes gunna keep fighting basically.... Hey, I'm very paranoid! I would've bet money on the Dems winning it in 08 but they have a tendency to blow these things...but I really really hope I'm wrong.
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Well, the only "problem" is that I have heard that a non-trivial percentage of her supporters are going to vote for McCain (don't have a source for this). Depending on what percentage that is (or if some choose to just stay at home), that might seriously influence the outcome. But you can hardly blame her for the reactions of her supporters.
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Pnoom!
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Posted: August 08 2008 at 21:34 |
At this point, if the Dems lose it's their own fault, not Hillary's (even though I don't like her much at all).
I was listening on the radio this morning to an interview with someone who worked on the Bush campaigns and some notable Democratic election expert and both agreed that polls indicate that most democrats will vote democrat, and that most republicans will vote republican (and that the number of each likely to vote against their party are pretty small and pretty close to equal). And when you consider that Obama is more exciting than McCain, it's likely more democrats will vote than republicans, which means that if independents don't swing massively towards McCain, Obama should still win.
I hope that made sense.
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JJLehto
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Posted: August 08 2008 at 21:27 |
Something about making sure her supporters voices are heard...I don't know it sounded alot to me like shes gunna keep fighting basically.... Hey, I'm very paranoid! I would've bet money on the Dems winning it in 08 but they have a tendency to blow these things...but I really really hope I'm wrong.
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Padraic
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Posted: August 08 2008 at 15:18 |
JJLehto wrote:
I really don't have a personal thing against Hillary Clinton, but I am beggining to DESPISE her. She's going to ruin the party. I really do think the Dems had 08 won....and I'm fearing 8 more years of Bush, (er McCain) are coming. Thanks Hill.
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What did she do? And you talk as if the Dems had already lost...Obama is still the favorite to win the election by most polling data I've seen.
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JJLehto
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Posted: August 08 2008 at 14:16 |
I really don't have a personal thing against Hillary Clinton, but I am beggining to DESPISE her. She's going to ruin the party. I really do think the Dems had 08 won....and I'm fearing 8 more years of Bush, (er McCain) are coming. Thanks Hill.
And on other news, I heard the country of Iraq had an $80+ Billion profit this year from oil. Well, very little of it was being spent on Iraq.....instead most of it was being held in banks, some owned by Americans.
I remember now why I stopped watching the news
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: August 05 2008 at 19:36 |
 
Edited by Slartibartfast - August 14 2008 at 17:32
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