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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:06 |
Ricochet wrote:
King By-Tor wrote:
Godbluff = x 1000
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Aye. 
By the same measuring:
Pawn Hearts = x 2000 H To He = x 1500 World Record = x 750 Still Life = x 27
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Godbluff = 1000 pnts Still Life = 950 pnts Pawn Hearts = 850 pnts tLwCdiWteO = 800 pnts H to He = 700 pnts World Record = ... 300 pnts.
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:06 |
Ricochet wrote:
What I don't understand with TMTDA is why Tillison is the only official musician and the rest are guests. I, instead of Stolt, would have said "guests? okay then. we'll leave and let's see if you can pull the same good album by just playing keyboards!".
P.S @ James: Stolt doesn't sing. Manning does.
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Stolt does too
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Ricochet
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:07 |
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Epignosis
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:07 |
James wrote:
Just remember though:
Roine Stolt cannot sing. Jaxon isn't on the other albums.
However, the dude who replaces him is excellent and replaced Elton Dean in Soft Machine Legacy.
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Ricochet
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:08 |
King By-Tor wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
What I don't understand with TMTDA is why Tillison is the only official musician and the rest are guests. I, instead of Stolt, would have said "guests? okay then. we'll leave and let's see if you can pull the same good album by just playing keyboards!".
P.S @ James: Stolt doesn't sing. Manning does.
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Stolt does too
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Not mentioned on PA.
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:09 |
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:09 |
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Ricochet
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:11 |
King By-Tor wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
King By-Tor wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
King By-Tor wrote:
Godbluff = x 1000
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Aye. 
By the same measuring:
Pawn Hearts = x 2000 H To He = x 1500 World Record = x 750 Still Life = x 27
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Godbluff = 1000 pnts Still Life = 950 pnts Pawn Hearts = 850 pnts tLwCdiWteO = 800 pnts H to He = 700 pnts World Record = ... 300 pnts.
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Doesn't really hurt me. The more people don't appreciate WR at its full, the more I can enjoy that I'm a particular fan of it.
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Man I dopn't get that album. It feels so lackluster after the emotional powerhouse of Still Life. Pilgrims sends chills down my spine every time
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So does to me, it's the rest that I don't get what's so beautiful. WR may feel toothless, but it's got the same VdGG inspiration, spirit, etc., neither light, neither full dark, neither completely emotional, neither bitter, but fully transmiting emotions and sounding ravishing.
Edited by Ricochet - December 11 2008 at 14:12
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rushfan4
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:11 |
Most critics seem to complain more about Tillison's voice instead of Stolt's. I enjoy both of them so take that for what it is worth. These days I'd say probably pennies on the dollar.
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:12 |
Oh well. Agree to disagree?  We need more love in here Rico
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:12 |
rushfan4 wrote:
Most critics seem to complain more about Tillison's voice instead of Stolt's. I enjoy both of them so take that for what it is worth. These days I'd say probably pennies on the dollar. |
I like them both although a lot of people say Tillison can't sing.
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Ricochet
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:13 |
12 minutes of TMTDA left.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:13 |
Ricochet wrote:
King By-Tor wrote:
Godbluff = x 1000
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Aye. 
By the same measuring:
Pawn Hearts = x 2000 H To He = x 1500 World Record = x 750 Still Life = x 27
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Hmm... Still Life =  x 99,999,999 Godbluff =  x 10,000,000 Pawn Hearts =  x 9,000,000 H to He =  x 8,000.000 The least... =  x 7,000.000 Present =  x 6,000,000 World Record =  x 5,000,000 The Quiet Zone/The Pleasure Dome =  x 4,000,000 The Aerosol Grey Machine =  x 3,000,000 Trisector =  x 1,000,000
Edited by James - December 11 2008 at 14:19
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Ricochet
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:14 |
And yet Trisector is one of your 2008 favorites?!?!?!
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Epignosis
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:16 |
Tillison sounds like Roger Waters.
Edited by Epignosis - December 11 2008 at 14:16
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:17 |
Theo Travis is also excellent and worthy replacement for Jaxon.
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Ricochet
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:17 |
 Seriously not building this for my kittens. --- The last part of TMTDA is weaker.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:17 |
Ricochet wrote:
And yet Trisector is one of your 2008 favorites?!?!?!
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Yes. It's still better than much of what has been released this year.  I think it's third in my list, Victor.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:18 |
If anything, Jaxon needs to sound like he's strangling his cat more on that album.
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Ricochet
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:20 |
James wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
And yet Trisector is one of your 2008 favorites?!?!?!
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Yes.
It's still better than much of what has been released this year. 
I think it's third in my list, Victor.
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I know that, I'm monitoring your top.  Well I wouldn't put it in the top if it gave me "  " feelings. It's around 50th in my top.
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