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    Posted: January 20 2009 at 11:58
This is an interesting subject that I've been getting into lately: lyrics and the deeper meanings behind them. There are many bands out there that use lyrics as a form of stating their views philosophically, and some can be very interesting indeed.
Here's a favourite of mine:

"So crucify the ego, before it's far too late
To leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical,
And you will come to find that we are all one mind
Capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
Just let the light touch you
And let the words spill through
And let them pass right through
Bringing out our hope and reason ..."

Fantastic, raises the hairs on the back of my neck every time. Anyone wanna take a guess as to the song? It's not hard

Any more from you guys?

N.B. As for the location, I couldn't think where else to put it.
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Yes, Reflection! One of the best songs Tool have written.

Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

Fantastic, raises the hairs on the back of my neck every time.
 
So very true.....I think the same can be said for all of the lyrics on Lateralus.
 
Great topic, I'll try to contribute some more lyrics later.
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Points: 8052 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2009 at 12:30
Afraid I don't know that one.

But, on the topic of thought-provoking/philosophical lyrics, noone comes close to Peter Hammill:
Just going for one of my favourites, the excellent Ferret and Featherbird

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Quote Time and distance are between us now,
they form a bond to make things sure.
Nothing ever shatters,
you know what happens:
time and distance make a love secure.


A few other particularly philosophical pieces:

Forsaken Gardens, Gog/Magog, Still Life, Pilgrims, Childlike Faith In Childhood's End, La Rossa, The Wave, Killer, A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers, The Sleepwalkers, pretty much all of Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night, The Comet, The Course, The Tail, A Louse Is Not A Home, Rubycon... well, a lot of his work.

A couple of the more socially aware Waters pieces could well be considered philosophical (I'd say Pigs On The Wing, Us and Them and Echoes, in particular).
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Points: 3577 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2009 at 12:40
Yes Hammill is GREAT writing lyrics with meaning.
 
Other that i like is Hensley his lyrics are very good.
 
 




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Points: 3577 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2009 at 12:41
Also check the Ian Anderson lyrics on TAAB and A Passion Play , very good to me




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Points: 3834 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2009 at 13:52
Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

Afraid I don't know that one.

But, on the topic of thought-provoking/philosophical lyrics, noone comes close to Peter Hammill:
Just going for one of my favourites, the excellent Ferret and Featherbird

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Quote Time and distance are between us now,
they form a bond to make things sure.
Nothing ever shatters,
you know what happens:
time and distance make a love secure.


A few other particularly philosophical pieces:

Forsaken Gardens, Gog/Magog, Still Life, Pilgrims, Childlike Faith In Childhood's End, La Rossa, The Wave, Killer, A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers, The Sleepwalkers, pretty much all of Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night, The Comet, The Course, The Tail, A Louse Is Not A Home, Rubycon... well, a lot of his work.

A couple of the more socially aware Waters pieces could well be considered philosophical (I'd say Pigs On The Wing, Us and Them and Echoes, in particular).


Ah yes, Hamill Still Life has some fantastic lyrics, as goes with Man Erg. They go really deep and question the nature of humanity like no other.
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Points: 24439 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2009 at 14:02
I know that won't probably interest many of you because of evident language problems, but the lyrics of Italian artist Franco Battiato (Micky's avatar is his third album, Sulle corde di Aries) have been written by a philosopher, Manlio Sgalambro, for the past 13 years. Sgalambro is a bit of a nihilist, so his lyrics tend to be a bit on the depressing side, though very interesting indeed.
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Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

I know that won't probably interest many of you because of evident language problems, but the lyrics of Italian artist Franco Battiato (Micky's avatar is his third album, Sulle corde di Aries) have been written by a philosopher, Manlio Sgalambro, for the past 13 years. Sgalambro is a bit of a nihilist, so his lyrics tend to be a bit on the depressing side, though very interesting indeed.


Any translation you'd like to share with us Raff? I don't speak Italian at all
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We have an album with lyrics by Sgalambro, but they are all in Italian, and I am afraid they would lose a lot in a translation. Anyway, I'll see what I can do in the next few days.
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Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

I know that won't probably interest many of you because of evident language problems, but the lyrics of Italian artist Franco Battiato (Micky's avatar is his third album, Sulle corde di Aries) have been written by a philosopher, Manlio Sgalambro, for the past 13 years. Sgalambro is a bit of a nihilist, so his lyrics tend to be a bit on the depressing side, though very interesting indeed.
 
 
mmm sounds interesting to me, i'm eager to know about this philosopherWink




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Points: 28057 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2009 at 15:06
Peter Hammill - Western Philosophy (I'm kinda thinking Bertrand Russell or maybe even Neitszche)
Jon Anderson - Lao Tzu, naturally. No f**king idea what those two are saying. LOL

Those are the two that stick out in my mind.
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Originally posted by Alberto Muņoz Alberto Muņoz wrote:

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

I know that won't probably interest many of you because of evident language problems, but the lyrics of Italian artist Franco Battiato (Micky's avatar is his third album, Sulle corde di Aries) have been written by a philosopher, Manlio Sgalambro, for the past 13 years. Sgalambro is a bit of a nihilist, so his lyrics tend to be a bit on the depressing side, though very interesting indeed.
 
 
mmm sounds interesting to me, i'm eager to know about this philosopherWink


Here is the link to his website (in Italian): http://manliosgalambro.tk/
If you click on Collaborazioni, you will find links to all the Battiato albums to which he has contributed. Some of them have lyrics in Spanish, which I'm sure you will appreciateWink.


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Thanks Raff, I'm looking forward to hearing some Italian deep thoughts.
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Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Originally posted by Alberto Muņoz Alberto Muņoz wrote:

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

I know that won't probably interest many of you because of evident language problems, but the lyrics of Italian artist Franco Battiato (Micky's avatar is his third album, Sulle corde di Aries) have been written by a philosopher, Manlio Sgalambro, for the past 13 years. Sgalambro is a bit of a nihilist, so his lyrics tend to be a bit on the depressing side, though very interesting indeed.
 
 
mmm sounds interesting to me, i'm eager to know about this philosopherWink


Here is the link to his website (in Italian): http://manliosgalambro.tk/
If you click on Collaborazioni, you will find links to all the Battiato albums to which he has contributed. Some of them have lyrics in Spanish, which I'm sure you will appreciateWink.
 
 
Great and thanks Raff, i see the menu is very amicable grazie milleWink




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Points: 3577 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2009 at 17:53
Hey i step in the biography section of Manlios and i have read this:
 
"Il nascere e il morire sono i due momenti unicamente reali. Il resto č sogno, interrotto da qualche insignificante sprazzo di veglia."
 
This is really GREAT i wonder about the lyrics with the Battiato albumsBig smileShocked




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Points: 3577 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2009 at 17:57
His Spanish poetry remind me to a loved philosopher called Cioran




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Na ........................
This is deeeeep
Dreamed I was an eskimo
Frozen wind began to blow
Under my boots and around my toes
The frost that bit the ground below
It was a hundred degrees below zero...

And my mama cried
And my mama cried
Nanook, a-no-no
Nanook, a-no-no
Dont be a naughty eskimo
Save your money, dont go to the show

Well I turned around and I said oh, oh oh
Well I turned around and I said oh, oh oh
Well I turned around and I said ho, ho
And the northern lights commenced to glow
And she said, with a tear in her eye
Watch out where the huskies go, and dont you eat that yellow snow
Watch out where the huskies go, and dont you eat that yellow snow  
 
Embarrassed
Sorry couldent help it


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As much as I don't like Russian language, my favorite lyricist is Boris Grebenshikov, leader of Aquarium... hardly anyone here can understand them thoughLOL
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Points: 18292 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2009 at 15:02
The swedish band Hoola Bandoola Band has some really good lyrics in swedish. I might post some translations here.
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Originally posted by Alberto Muņoz Alberto Muņoz wrote:

Also check the Ian Anderson lyrics on TAAB and A Passion Play , very good to me
 
I've noticed Ian Anderson's first four lines on TAAB are pretty much a slap in the face to all his critics. If you still can't hear it, pretend your saying them to someone you don't like and you'll probably get it.
 
Also, I would rate pretty much anything Jon Anderson wrote as thought provoking for two reasons. 1. They're really deep and nebulous allowing you to try and figure it out. 2. You are straining your brain trying to figure out what degree of insane you have to be to write some of this stuff.
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