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ARISCOTLE ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: March 18 2008 Location: Roseville, CA Status: Offline Points: 29 |
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I was looking through the PA top 100 and found it shamefully lacking ANYTHING by
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - who IMO are just prog rock at its pinnacle. They had some of the best talent, arrangement, breakthrough style and 2 of the best albums ever recorded (IMO) in any genre "Tarkus" - 1971 & "Brain Salad Surgery" - 1973 I won't argue and bitch with people on here like so many do about who is and isn't prog, but I don't care who you are ELP belongs in the top 5 and when bands like Dream Theater, Pain of Salvation, Opeth, Dun, Ayreon, Phideaux, The Mars Volta, Psychotic Waltz, Arena, Sieges Even, Bubu, Atlas, Los Jaivas, Atheist, Unexpect, Edge of Sanity, Riverside, Hoyry-Kone, Disillusion, and Death all make the list and ELP doesn't, it makes me question the validity of a community that calls itself a "PROG" community and has no reference to hands down one of the great inventors of the genre to begin with. Sad - Sad - Sad - Sad - Sad - Shameful PEOPLE PLEASE GET A GRIP AND PAY RESPECT WHERE IT IS DUE longliverealprog :) |
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august 1, 1981 - the day the music died
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CCVP ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 15 2007 Location: Vitória, Brasil Status: Offline Points: 7971 |
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yeah, ELP is incredibly underrated here in ProgArchives. Just a shame, they are one of my favorite bands ever.
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MovingPictures07 ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 09 2008 Location: Beasty Heart Status: Offline Points: 32181 |
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Once you stop caring about what other people's opinions, the better. The top 100 will never satisfy everyone.
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Mellotron Storm ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 27 2006 Location: The Beach Status: Offline Points: 14460 |
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All a matter of opinion i suppose,but i think ELP's debut should definitely be in the top 100. ELP are one of the few bands who non-prog fans know are prog along with YES and maybe GENESIS.
I shake my head at some of the bands in the top 100 as well,but if i made my own top 100 list there would be tons of people shaking their heads too.
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
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crimson87 ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 03 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 1818 |
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Join the club man!!!!!!!!
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Henry Plainview ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
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So do something about it and write some good reviews for them. I do believe we've had this complaint before. ;-)
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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ARISCOTLE ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: March 18 2008 Location: Roseville, CA Status: Offline Points: 29 |
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@Henry
You make a good point, can't really complain too much from the sidelines. Maybe I will start writing some reviews. Though if this was a "progressive rock" forum, as the name indicates ELP would not have to compete with so much other drivel. I'm way too opinionated though in my view of what is prog and what is not. Just because some band uses an instrument other than guitar/bass/drums, or has technical savvy surely does not make it "progressive" - Shame on all you proggers who show no love for ELP keep listening to whatever...its all subjective enjoy music and, btw, I actually don't care what other people think, I was just noting that it was surprising to see the contents of the top 100. peace & music |
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august 1, 1981 - the day the music died
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Henry Plainview ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
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Oh, this again. :/ While I sometimes take issue with inclusion, particularly in prog-related, there is a good reason every band is included, and maybe you should try to find out why that is. Anyway, I was being sarcastic because we've had a lot of these threads before, but I can't seem to find any of them with the search function, so I'll let you off the hook this time. ;-)
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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crimhead ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 10 2006 Location: Missouri Status: Offline Points: 19236 |
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I like ELP these days. I used to love them. I guess in time what they've done seems dated and not as interesting or compelling as compared to others bands. Peoples taste change as well. Part of the problem is that they seemed not to work as a unit. You have Emerson's input and ego then Lake's input and ego and it seems Palmer is just along for the ride. IMHO.
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Wanorak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 09 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4574 |
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I totally agree:) Brain Salad Surgery was way ahead of it's time and deserves to be in the top 10; nevermind Tarkus, ELP and Trilogy. Enough of the prog-metal already and give ELP their due!!!
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A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!
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russellk ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 28 2005 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 782 |
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Not a fan of ELP myself; one of the very few prog acts that bores me to tears. But given the central role they played in prog rock in the 70s, it's a surprise that their better albums don't feature.
Having said that, this probably reflects the way this band divides the prog community. |
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Queen By-Tor ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 13 2006 Location: Xanadu Status: Offline Points: 16111 |
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I think a lot of proggers are embarrased of the way that they helped put the nails into the coffin of the mid 70s progressive scene
*douses self in gasloline*
I love BSS, but there's 100 prog albums better than it. And what? What's that? There's no 101 spot on the top 100? Shame, that.
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Mr ProgFreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 08 2008 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 5195 |
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My suggestion:
Split the top prog albums list on the start page. Instead of showing one list of the top 100 albums, make it two lists with 50 albums: 1. Top classic prog albums (1968-1975) 2. Top prog albums (1976-*) How about that? |
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Pekka ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 03 2006 Location: Espoo, Finland Status: Offline Points: 6457 |
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Nah, they just should've left the Bennys and Jeremys in the studio.
I love parts of their work, more and more all the time, but their music is so provocative in its flashiness that it's no wonder to me that their albums are not rated that highly. For one lover theres always one hater.
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Jake Kobrin ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: September 20 2008 Status: Offline Points: 1303 |
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Opeth deserves the spot much, much, much more... |
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Mr ProgFreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 08 2008 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 5195 |
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^ Ayreon too!
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Visitor13 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 02 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 4702 |
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I suggest we end the thread right here, with ELP at the beginning and Ayreon at the end. A perfect illustration of going from bad to worse.
Though Jake Kobrin would need to edit the Opeth mention out of his post. |
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Mr ProgFreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 08 2008 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 5195 |
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^ why always tell people which of their favorite bands are actually crap? I mean, you don't have to like Ayreon, but rather than telling me that it sucks I'd prefer people to tell me what they like instead. Recommendations are always better than negative rants IMO.
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Visitor13 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 02 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 4702 |
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I'm not going to recommend any prog metal to a prog metal expert, so:
http://www.amazon.com/Age-Everything-Joe-Morris/dp/B000068Q32/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1241172982&sr=1-2 |
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Mr ProgFreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 08 2008 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 5195 |
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^ I added the album to the PF database. Unfortunately I can't find any samples ... which of his albums that are available on eMusic.com would you recommend?
http://www.emusic.com/artist/Joe-Morris-MP3-Download/11563777.html |
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