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Posted: May 28 2009 at 21:20
catfood03 wrote:
Ha! Yup, that sounds like Zappa humor alright!
I hope I'm not treading into personal territory but how do you find that humour? I love Zappa and completely understand it's irony (well I think I do a anyway) but do you find it offensive?
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Posted: May 28 2009 at 19:57
Here's an excerpt, it gets more naughty at the end: "He's so gay
He's so gay
He's very very gay
He's so gay
He's so gay
And he likes to be that way
With his keys all on the right
He's into rubber every night
He's so gay
He's so gay
He's almost everyone today
He's okay
He's okay
He's got a role he wants to play
He's okay
He's okay
He's just a cowboy for a day
Of course, his evening's not complete
Without some meat in the seat;
Let's skate away
Down santa monica today"
Then there's Keep It Greasy... To be fair he also insulted Catholic Girls on Joe's Garage. French cheeses? Gay? Aw, come on. Mon Dieu!!!
Edited by Slartibartfast - May 28 2009 at 20:05
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
Speaking of gay, if you consider yourself to be so do find Zappa's He's So Gay song to be offensive or funny?
I'm only familiar with Zappa's "greatest hits", so I can't say I've heard "He's So Gay" (a parody of "He's So Fine"?). I could do a lyric search and get back to you on that one. Although knowing Zappa's politics a bit I doubt he means offense... or not?
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Posted: May 28 2009 at 18:09
I'm another gay member, although normally I only discuss it if the topic comes up. For instance, in a pm, when a member found out I was from Montreal, he told me I must have lots of stories about Montreal women, at which point I set him straight. I haven't met many other fans who are gay but I am also a fan of folk music and there are more of us there. In fact, one buddy and I often joke about how, in our perfect world, a gay vacation cruise would feature Maddy Prior (of Steeleye Span) as entertainment instead of some overwrought Streisand or Celine wannabe! I too applaud catfood03 and hope you stick around.
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Posted: May 28 2009 at 18:04
Great post for a Newbie! I always felt I was a lesbian trapped in a mans body and I plunk on the piano a bit!
As for your topic you state the fact that prog tended to show some feminized qualities but yet was for the most part (Raff and a few others are exceptions) did not grab female attention. I find that a bit strange. Phil Collins once said he felt Genesis early music was very masculine in that it attracted mostly men. Would someones sexuality affect what they create in the same way as someones philosophy or eduction might?
Edited by Garion81 - May 28 2009 at 18:06
"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?"
As a gay man (first time I've mentioned this on here), I couldn't agree more.
There are far more gays/bisexuals in prog than those you have mentioned; I know because I was active in both the prog and gay scene in London in the 70s/80s. But I'll be damned if I'm going to "out" anyone. A person's sexuality is his/her business. It doesn't affect their music, so please don't pry.
In my post above your original quote I said: "I am only interested in musicians who are out, not figuring out or outing closeted musicians." I am not here to pry! I just wanted to know who was already out and proud in prog music.
I am not of the opinion that people should be pushed out of the closet if they are not ready. (Except maybe closeted politicians and religious leaders who push for anti-gay agendas. Those hypocrites!). Each gay person should have their own timetable as to when, and if, they want to share something this private with others. In my case, it took me the better part of a decade to fully be out of the closet (from the first time I told a friend, to my family, and at my workplace).
zachfive wrote:
However, I think the person who started the thread just finds comfort that some of the musicians they like share the same values.
Thank you, zachfive! I don't care if a person is straight or gay. It doesn't make me like their music less either way!
However...
I do applaud and wanted recognition for those progressive musicians who are already out, because it is those brave souls who are role models for others that follow. That was the reason behind my initial post.
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Posted: May 28 2009 at 12:06
Slartibartfast wrote:
... Now are there any gay cheeses out there?
LaBrie?
Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Posted: May 28 2009 at 11:42
I agree that no one should care or put any emphasis on whether a prog musician is gay or not, and yes it is like making a cheese lovers/prog thread. However, I think the person who started the thread just finds comfort that some of the musicians they like share the same values. I know I'd be all jazzed if Geddy Lee's favorite cheese was 2 year aged Sharp White Cheddar.(my favorite) It wouldn't matter if he didn't like it, but as stated before-it'd be nice to know if me and him shared something in common. Just a thought...
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Posted: May 28 2009 at 10:01
Hercules wrote:
tinsolja wrote:
I fail to understand the relevance of this issue
so what, who cares..
i'm not interested in the sexuality of muso's and it shouldn't
matter or make any difference what the person is..
We like to delve into peoples private lives.. the gossipy, tabloid culture
we seem to have is not good.
Peace.
As a gay man (first time I've mentioned this on here), I couldn't agree more.
There are far more gays/bisexuals in prog than those you have mentioned; I know because I was active in both the prog and gay scene in London in the 70s/80s. But I'll be damned if I'm going to "out" anyone. A person's sexuality is his/her business. It doesn't affect their music, so please don't pry.
YES, I couldn't agree more.
The sexuality is the affair of each individual person, and it's not my duty to discuss about the private life of someone who I don't really know. Gay musicians are musicians just like hetero musicians, and if they love women or men or both is nothing that I should care and nothing I do care about - unless the musician doesn't make his 'direction' become part of the music: in this case, it would be worth regarding in connection with the music; but the privacy of a person I don't know personally is nothing too interesting to me - in my opinion.
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Posted: May 28 2009 at 09:55
catfood03 wrote:
Hi there, everyone! I'm new here to the Prog Archives and the forum. I tried a search for this topic but did not find this discussed...
I am curious to know if progressive rock has any openly gay musicians (gay, lesbian, transgendered...) among the roster of artists that are covered on this Prog Archives. I follow many styles of music and know of musicians who are out-of-the-closet in pop, jazz, electronic, country, etc. With progressive rock being so wildly imaginative I would think it would attract people from many walks of life, and hellllOOO... not to mention some of the outfits worn by prog bands in the 70's!
Kit Watkins, formerly of HAPPY THE MAN and nowadays a very respected chamber, new-age and soft fusion musician and composer, is gay. And by teh way, one of the finest prog rock writers in the genre ever.
I didn't know about Lindsay Cooper, great - that only makes her more attractive to my eyes (when loking at her young photos, I mean...)
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Posted: May 28 2009 at 08:04
tinsolja wrote:
I fail to understand the relevance of this issue
so what, who cares..
i'm not interested in the sexuality of muso's and it shouldn't
matter or make any difference what the person is..
We like to delve into peoples private lives.. the gossipy, tabloid culture
we seem to have is not good.
Peace.
As a gay man (first time I've mentioned this on here), I couldn't agree more.
There are far more gays/bisexuals in prog than those you have mentioned; I know because I was active in both the prog and gay scene in London in the 70s/80s. But I'll be damned if I'm going to "out" anyone. A person's sexuality is his/her business. It doesn't affect their music, so please don't pry.
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catfood03 wrote:
I haven't met many other fans who are gay but I am also a fan of folk music and there are more of us there. In fact, one buddy and I often joke about how, in our perfect world, a gay vacation cruise would feature Maddy Prior (of Steeleye Span) as entertainment instead of some overwrought Streisand or Celine wannabe! I too applaud catfood03 and hope you stick around.
