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catfood03
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 18:52 |
kenethlevine wrote:
I didn't like ABBA at the time, but confess I enjoy them now. And for prog quotient, has anyone heard their song "Eagles"? |
Yes, I love "Eagle", but prog? Perhaps in the lyrics?
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StyLaZyn
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 15:07 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
Naw, serously get in touch with your feminine side. Understand compassion a bit
more. Buy some flowery shirts. Get a facial and your nails done. 
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Animate me.
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Easy Money
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin
Joined: August 11 2007
Location: Memphis
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 13:57 |
Regarding people who want an admins to close this thread, or think that it is disrespectful. Please read all the pages, this thread is suprisingly thoughtful, sensitive and downright intelligent.
I was watching this thread from the beginning and at first I thought, oh no a bunch of pointless gratuitous speculation on musicians who may or may not seem a bit 'swishy'.
Instead what has happened is a very nice and suprisingly mature (for PA, ha ha) discussion and some heart-warming frankness that makes this thread one of the coolest I have seen on PA ... ever.
Edited by Easy Money - May 29 2009 at 13:59
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mrcozdude
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Joined: July 25 2007
Location: Devon,UK.
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 13:46 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
Naw, serously get in touch with your feminine side. Understand compassion a bit
more. Buy some flowery shirts. Get a facial and your nails done. 
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Only if there's a poll
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 12:06 |
Naw, serously get in touch with your feminine side. Understand compassion a bit
more. Buy some flowery shirts. Get a facial and your nails done. 
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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mrcozdude
Forum Senior Member
Joined: July 25 2007
Location: Devon,UK.
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 11:58 |
StyLaZyn wrote:
mrcozdude wrote:
moshkito wrote:
Hi,
If I was the Administrator on this board ... I would have removed this topic ... as inappropriate and dis-respectful of people's personal sexual preferences, if not even relationships. I suppose that the following topic will be that they are not people, too!
Thx |
I don't see hows it disrespectful when the thread has been started by an openly gay man and knowone is poking fun or being homophobic.
Over sensitive people piss me off.
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You could use some sensitivity training. Get in touch with your feminine side. Understand compassion a bit more. Buy some flowery shirts. Get a facial and your nails done.
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That sounds great but I'm defending the thread.Should we close this thread because we can't talk about sexual preference without being insensitive?
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StyLaZyn
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Joined: November 22 2005
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 09:24 |
mrcozdude wrote:
moshkito wrote:
Hi,
If I was the Administrator on this board ... I would have removed this topic ... as inappropriate and dis-respectful of people's personal sexual preferences, if not even relationships. I suppose that the following topic will be that they are not people, too!
Thx |
I don't see hows it disrespectful when the thread has been started by an openly gay man and knowone is poking fun or being homophobic.
Over sensitive people piss me off.
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You could use some sensitivity training. Get in touch with your feminine side. Understand compassion a bit more. Buy some flowery shirts. Get a facial and your nails done.
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mrcozdude
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Location: Devon,UK.
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 09:20 |
moshkito wrote:
Hi,
If I was the Administrator on this board ... I would have removed this topic ... as inappropriate and dis-respectful of people's personal sexual preferences, if not even relationships. I suppose that the following topic will be that they are not people, too!
Thx |
I don't see hows it disrespectful when the thread has been started by an openly gay man and knowone is poking fun or being homophobic. Over sensitive people piss me off.
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StyLaZyn
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 22 2005
Location: United States
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 09:17 |
moshkito wrote:
Hi,
If I was the Administrator on this board ... I would have removed this topic ... as inappropriate and dis-respectful of people's personal sexual preferences, if not even relationships. I suppose that the following topic will be that they are not people, too!
Thx |
Yes, it could get ugly.
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moshkito
Forum Senior Member
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 09:14 |
Hi,
If I was the Administrator on this board ... I would have removed this topic ... as inappropriate and dis-respectful of people's personal sexual preferences, if not even relationships. I suppose that the following topic will be that they are not people, too!
Thx
Edited by moshkito - May 29 2009 at 09:16
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kenethlevine
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Prog-Folk Team
Joined: December 06 2006
Location: New England
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 09:11 |
I didn't like ABBA at the time, but confess I enjoy them now. And for prog quotient, has anyone heard their song "Eagles"?
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catfood03
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Joined: May 24 2009
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 07:08 |
Rocktopus wrote:
Catfood03, you said you like the heavier stuff of Mike Patton. Did you
know that Roddy Bottum, the keyboardplayer in Faith No More was more or
less the first to come out as gay (in 1993) in metal?
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I forgot about Roddy, and that's probably because I know FNM isn't listed as a prog band here (nor should they be, even though I love their songs). That was years before Halford from Judas Priest came out.
Rocktopus wrote:
Gorgoroth's Gaahl must be the first to come out of the Norwegian (or any) Black Metal scene.
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His make-up looks sooooo fabulous!
Rocktopus wrote:
This guy I used to know (who's a gay Residents/Kraftwerk-nutter) said that the worst part about being gay is ABBA!
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Hmmm, hate to fulfill a stereotype here, but I  ABBA!
Rocktopus wrote:
A gay black metaller is very welcomed (Does anyone know of
a black black metaller btw?)
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There have been a handful of black (as in race) metal bands. Most obvious is Living Colour. Although the sexual orientations of the band members are unknown to me, they did have a cool song called "Bi". Here's a big chunk of it... People, if they choose you, then they want you to decide
But you’d rather relax, kick back, enjoy the ride
There’s a category if you’re straight or gay
You’re a wild card gambler and you like it both ways
Everybody wants you when you’re bi
Looking at the girls and eyeing all the guys
Everybody loves you when you’re bi
But the tension and the passion’s double amplified
My lover told me, well, that she’s bi
I wanted to scream, there were tears in my eyes
She said baby, baby, don’t you cry
‘Cause the one I am with, you’ve been seeing on the side
Everybody wants you when you’re bi
Eating with the girls and laughing with the guys
Everybody loves you when you’re bi
But the tension and the passion’s double amplified
Everybody wants you when you’re bi
Feeling all the girls and touching all the guys
Well, everybody loves you when you’re bi
Well a friend of a friend of a friend told me
Everybody’s messed up with their sexuality
Well a friend of a friend of a friend told me
I need a closet big enough to live in
A closet for the whole world to live in
I want a closet big enough to live in
A closet for the whole world to live in
Everybody wants you when you’re bi
Loving all the girls and loving all the guys
Everybody needs you when you’re bi
But the tension and the passion’s double amplified
Edited by catfood03 - May 29 2009 at 07:22
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ghost_of_morphy
Prog Reviewer
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Location: United States
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 04:36 |
Rocktopus wrote:
This guy I used to know (who's a gay Residents/Kraftwerk-nutter) said that the worst part about being gay is ABBA! |
I personally have no reason to think that one's sexual orientation has anything to do with one's taste in music.
Nevertheless, your comment makes one hell of a quote.
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Rocktopus
Forum Senior Member
Joined: March 02 2006
Location: Norway
Status: Offline
Points: 4202
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 03:16 |
Rocktopus wrote:
Einsetumadur wrote:
Hercules wrote:
[QUOTE=tinsolja]I fail to understand the relevance of this issue
so what, who cares..
i'm not interested in the sexuality of muso's and it shouldn't
matter or make any difference what the person is..
We like to delve into peoples private lives.. the gossipy, tabloid culture
we seem to have is not good.
Peace.  |
As a gay man (first time I've mentioned this on here), I couldn't agree more.
There
are far more gays/bisexuals in prog than those you have mentioned; I
know because I was active in both the prog and gay scene in London in
the 70s/80s. But I'll be damned if I'm going to "out" anyone. A
person's sexuality is his/her business. It doesn't affect their music,
so please don't pry.
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YES, I couldn't agree more.
The
sexuality is the affair of each individual person, and it's not my duty
to discuss about the private life of someone who I don't really know.
Gay musicians are musicians just like hetero musicians, and if they
love women or men or both is nothing that I should care and nothing I
do care about - unless the musician doesn't make his 'direction'
become part of the music: in this case, it would be worth regarding in
connection with the music; but the privacy of a person I don't know
personally is nothing too interesting to me - in my opinion. 
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Fine, you're not interested (I'm not sure I believe you. Looks more like a PC-opinion than a personal opinion). I am. I
find it interesting and healthy when people breaks with a couple of
stereotypes. A gay black metaller is very welcomed (Does anyone know of
a black black metaller btw?). I'm still waiting and hoping for the
first gay hip-hop'er to come out, seriously the most homophobic genre
in all popularculture.
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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Sean Trane
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Prog Folk
Joined: April 29 2004
Location: Heart of Europe
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 02:54 |
kenethlevine wrote:
I'm another gay member, although normally I only discuss it if the topic comes up. For instance, in a pm, when a member found out I was from Montreal, he told me I must have lots of stories about Montreal women, at which point I set him straight. I haven't met many other fans who are gay but I am also a fan of folk music and there are more of us there. In fact, one buddy and I often joke about how, in our perfect world, a gay vacation cruise would feature Maddy Prior (of Steeleye Span) as entertainment instead of some overwrought Streisand or Celine wannabe! I too applaud catfood03 and hope you stick around. |
PS: you didn't have to set me straight..... I always was  ..... even if Garion stole my line of being a male lesbian 
There is at least one other member who used to be not quite as discreet on the board, although it's been a while since I've seen MO post.
Then we've got our fave couple of lesbians our Baldies >>> surely with their album out, they qualify as gay prog musicians
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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moreitsythanyou
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Location: NYC
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 02:50 |
Rocktopus wrote:
This guy I used to know (who's a gay Residents/Kraftwerk-nutter) said that the worst part about being gay is ABBA!
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These days it's Britney Spears, which is even worse. The stereotypical "gay" music really annoys me, one of several reasons why I don't interact much in the community.
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 <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR]
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Rocktopus
Forum Senior Member
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Location: Norway
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 02:09 |
Catfood03, you said you like the heavier stuff of Mike Patton. Did you
know that Roddy Bottum, the keyboardplayer in Faith No More was more or
less the first to come out as gay (in 1993) in metal?
Gorgoroth's Gaahl must be the first to come out of the Norwegian (or any) Black Metal scene.
A side note, but among the 20th century composers there's quite many: Benjamin
Britten, Aaron Copland, Karol Szymanowski, Samuel
Barber, Leonard Bernstein, Gian Carlo Menotti, Francis Poulenc, Manuel
de Falla, John Cage, John Corigliano and moog pioneer Walter (Wendy after the sex change) Carlos mm...
This guy I used to know (who's a gay Residents/Kraftwerk-nutter) said that the worst part about being gay is ABBA!
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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progkidjoel
Prog Reviewer
Joined: March 02 2009
Location: Australia
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Points: 19643
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 01:40 |
"It don't matter if they likes them men or them women... They's all beautiful people, baby."
*Said in Isaac Hayes' voice (Chef from South Park, SHAFT)*
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catfood03
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 24 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 785
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Posted: May 28 2009 at 21:27 |
kenethlevine wrote:
In fact, one buddy and I often joke about how, in our perfect world, a gay vacation cruise would feature Maddy Prior (of Steeleye Span) as entertainment instead of some overwrought Streisand or Celine wannabe! I too applaud catfood03 and hope you stick around. |
I'd rather be entertained by Geddy Lee impersonators than Cher ones (well, hmmm maybe I should think that over). Thanks, I hope to be around here for awhile (I've got some more reviews I want to write!)
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kenethlevine
Special Collaborator
Prog-Folk Team
Joined: December 06 2006
Location: New England
Status: Offline
Points: 9179
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Posted: May 28 2009 at 21:25 |
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