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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2009 at 18:52
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

I didn't like ABBA at the time, but confess I enjoy them now.  And for prog quotient, has anyone heard their song "Eagles"?



Yes, I love "Eagle", but prog? Perhaps in the lyrics?Disapprove
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2009 at 15:07
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Naw, serously get in touch with your feminine side. Understand compassion a bit more. Buy some flowery shirts. Get a facial and your nails done. Tongue



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2009 at 13:57
Regarding people who want an admins to close this thread, or think that it is disrespectful. Please read all the pages, this thread is suprisingly thoughtful, sensitive and downright intelligent.

I was watching this thread from the beginning and at first I thought, oh no a bunch of pointless gratuitous speculation on musicians who may or may not seem a bit 'swishy'.

Instead what has happened is a very nice and suprisingly mature (for PA, ha ha) discussion and some heart-warming frankness that makes this thread one of the coolest I have seen on PA ... ever.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2009 at 13:46
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Naw, serously get in touch with your feminine side. Understand compassion a bit more. Buy some flowery shirts. Get a facial and your nails done. Tongue



Only if there's a poll
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2009 at 12:06
Naw, serously get in touch with your feminine side. Understand compassion a bit more. Buy some flowery shirts. Get a facial and your nails done. Tongue

Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2009 at 11:58
Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

Originally posted by mrcozdude mrcozdude wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,
 
If I was the Administrator on this board ... I would have removed this topic ... as inappropriate and dis-respectful of people's personal sexual preferences, if not even relationships. I suppose that the following topic will be that they are not people, too!
 
Thx


I don't see hows it disrespectful when the thread has been started by an openly gay man and knowone is poking fun or being homophobic.

Over sensitive people piss me off.

You could use some sensitivity training. Get in touch with your feminine side. Understand compassion a bit more. Buy some flowery shirts. Get a facial and your nails done.



That sounds great but I'm defending the thread.Should we close this thread because we can't talk about sexual preference without being insensitive?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2009 at 09:24
Originally posted by mrcozdude mrcozdude wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,
 
If I was the Administrator on this board ... I would have removed this topic ... as inappropriate and dis-respectful of people's personal sexual preferences, if not even relationships. I suppose that the following topic will be that they are not people, too!
 
Thx


I don't see hows it disrespectful when the thread has been started by an openly gay man and knowone is poking fun or being homophobic.

Over sensitive people piss me off.

You could use some sensitivity training. Get in touch with your feminine side. Understand compassion a bit more. Buy some flowery shirts. Get a facial and your nails done.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2009 at 09:20
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,
 
If I was the Administrator on this board ... I would have removed this topic ... as inappropriate and dis-respectful of people's personal sexual preferences, if not even relationships. I suppose that the following topic will be that they are not people, too!
 
Thx


I don't see hows it disrespectful when the thread has been started by an openly gay man and knowone is poking fun or being homophobic.

Over sensitive people piss me off.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2009 at 09:17
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,
 
If I was the Administrator on this board ... I would have removed this topic ... as inappropriate and dis-respectful of people's personal sexual preferences, if not even relationships. I suppose that the following topic will be that they are not people, too!
 
Thx

Yes, it could get ugly. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2009 at 09:14
Hi,
 
If I was the Administrator on this board ... I would have removed this topic ... as inappropriate and dis-respectful of people's personal sexual preferences, if not even relationships. I suppose that the following topic will be that they are not people, too!
 
Thx


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2009 at 09:11

I didn't like ABBA at the time, but confess I enjoy them now.  And for prog quotient, has anyone heard their song "Eagles"?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2009 at 07:08
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Catfood03, you said you like the heavier stuff of Mike Patton. Did you know that Roddy Bottum, the keyboardplayer in Faith No More was more or less the first to come out as gay (in 1993) in metal?


I forgot about Roddy, and that's probably because I know FNM isn't listed as a prog band here (nor should they be, even though I love their songs). That was years before Halford from Judas Priest came out.

Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Gorgoroth's Gaahl must be the first to come out of the Norwegian (or any) Black Metal scene.


His make-up looks sooooo fabulous! LOL

Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

This guy I used to know (who's a gay Residents/Kraftwerk-nutter) said that the worst part about being gay is ABBA!


Hmmm, hate to fulfill a stereotype here, but I Heart ABBA!

Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

A gay black metaller is very welcomed (Does anyone know of a black black metaller btw?)


There have been a handful of black (as in race) metal bands. Most obvious is Living Colour. Although the sexual orientations of the band members are unknown to me, they did have a cool song called "Bi". Here's a big chunk of it...

People, if they choose you, then they want you to decide
But you’d rather relax, kick back, enjoy the ride
There’s a category if you’re straight or gay
You’re a wild card gambler and you like it both ways

Everybody wants you when you’re bi
Looking at the girls and eyeing all the guys
Everybody loves you when you’re bi
But the tension and the passion’s double amplified

My lover told me, well, that she’s bi
I wanted to scream, there were tears in my eyes
She said baby, baby, don’t you cry
‘Cause the one I am with, you’ve been seeing on the side

Everybody wants you when you’re bi
Eating with the girls and laughing with the guys
Everybody loves you when you’re bi
But the tension and the passion’s double amplified

Everybody wants you when you’re bi
Feeling all the girls and touching all the guys
Well, everybody loves you when you’re bi
Well a friend of a friend of a friend told me
Everybody’s messed up with their sexuality
Well a friend of a friend of a friend told me
I need a closet big enough to live in
A closet for the whole world to live in
I want a closet big enough to live in
A closet for the whole world to live in

Everybody wants you when you’re bi
Loving all the girls and loving all the guys
Everybody needs you when you’re bi
But the tension and the passion’s double amplified



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2009 at 04:36
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:


This guy I used to know (who's a gay Residents/Kraftwerk-nutter) said that the worst part about being gay is ABBA!
I personally have no reason to think that one's sexual orientation has anything to do with one's taste in music.
 
Nevertheless, your comment makes one hell of a quote.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2009 at 03:16
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Originally posted by Einsetumadur Einsetumadur wrote:

Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

[QUOTE=tinsolja]I fail to understand the relevance of this issue  Ermm
 
so what,  who cares..
 
i'm not interested in the sexuality of muso's and it shouldn't
matter or make any difference what the person is..
We like to delve into peoples private lives..  the gossipy, tabloid culture
we seem to have is not good.
 
 
Peace.  Smile


As a gay man (first time I've mentioned this on here), I couldn't agree more.

There are far more gays/bisexuals in prog than those you have mentioned; I know because I was active in both the prog and gay scene in London in the 70s/80s. But I'll be damned if I'm going to "out" anyone.  A person's sexuality is his/her business. It doesn't affect their music, so please don't pry.


YES,  I couldn't agree more.

The sexuality is the affair of each individual person, and it's not my duty to discuss about the private life of someone who I don't really know.  Gay musicians are musicians just like hetero musicians, and if they love women or men or both  is nothing that I should care and nothing I do care about - unless the musician doesn't make his 'direction'  become part of the music:  in this case, it would be worth regarding in connection with the music;  but the privacy of a person I don't know personally  is nothing too interesting to me - in my opinion. Wink


Fine, you're not interested (I'm not sure I believe you. Looks more like a PC-opinion than a personal opinion). I am.

I find it interesting and healthy when people breaks with a couple of stereotypes. A gay black metaller is very welcomed (Does anyone know of a black black metaller btw?). I'm still waiting and hoping for the first gay hip-hop'er to come out, seriously the most homophobic genre in all popularculture.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2009 at 02:54
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

I'm another gay member, although normally I only discuss it if the topic comes up.  For instance, in a pm, when a member found out I was from Montreal, he told me I must have lots of stories about Montreal women, at which point I set him straight.   Wink   I haven't met many other fans who are gay but I am also a fan of folk music and there are more of us there.  In fact, one buddy and I often joke about how, in our perfect world, a gay vacation cruise would feature Maddy Prior (of Steeleye Span) as entertainment instead of some overwrought Streisand or Celine wannabe!  I too applaud catfood03 and hope you stick around.
 
 
 
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PS: you didn't have to set me straight..... I always wasTongue..... even if Garion stole my line of being a male lesbianLOL
 
There is at least one other member who used to be not quite as discreet on the board, although it's been a while since I've seen  MO  post.
 
Then we've got our fave couple of lesbians our Baldies >>> surely with their album out, they qualify as gay prog musicians
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2009 at 02:50
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:



This guy I used to know (who's a gay Residents/Kraftwerk-nutter) said that the worst part about being gay is ABBA!

These days it's Britney Spears, which is even worse. The stereotypical "gay" music really annoys me, one of several reasons why I don't interact much in the community.
<font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR]

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2009 at 02:09
Catfood03, you said you like the heavier stuff of Mike Patton. Did you know that Roddy Bottum, the keyboardplayer in Faith No More was more or less the first to come out as gay (in 1993) in metal?

Gorgoroth's Gaahl must be the first to come out of the Norwegian (or any) Black Metal scene.



A side note, but among the 20th century composers there's quite many: Benjamin Britten, Aaron Copland, Karol Szymanowski, Samuel Barber, Leonard Bernstein, Gian Carlo Menotti, Francis Poulenc, Manuel de Falla, John Cage, John Corigliano and moog pioneer Walter (Wendy after the sex change) Carlos mm...

This guy I used to know (who's a gay Residents/Kraftwerk-nutter) said that the worst part about being gay is ABBA!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2009 at 01:40
"It don't matter if they likes them men or them women... They's all beautiful people, baby."

*Said in Isaac Hayes' voice (Chef from South Park, SHAFT)*
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2009 at 21:27
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

In fact, one buddy and I often joke about how, in our perfect world, a gay vacation cruise would feature Maddy Prior (of Steeleye Span) as entertainment instead of some overwrought Streisand or Celine wannabe!  I too applaud catfood03 and hope you stick around.


I'd rather be entertained by Geddy Lee impersonators than Cher ones (well, hmmm maybe I should think that over).

Thanks, I hope to be around here for awhile (I've got some more reviews I want to write!)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2009 at 21:25
Originally posted by mrcozdude mrcozdude wrote:

Originally posted by catfood03 catfood03 wrote:

Ha! Yup, that sounds like Zappa humor alright! LOL


I hope I'm not treading into personal territory but how do you find that humour? I love Zappa and completely understand it's irony (well I think I do a anyway) but do you find it offensive?


I think in its day it was offensive because it was attacking a defenseless target.  These days I feel less perturbed as lesbian/gay/bisexual/transgendered folks slowly get full rights and become just another groups to be poked fun at.
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