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J-Man ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 07 2008 Location: Philadelphia,PA Status: Offline Points: 7826 |
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It figures! I just upgraded ITCOTCK onto CD, and now I have to do it all over again!!!
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Big Ears ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 08 2005 Location: Hants, England Status: Offline Points: 727 |
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Why is Steven Wilson involved and what is his connection with In the Court Of? Wasn't he a member of Japan?
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rushaholic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 13 2005 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1138 |
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Steven Wilson wasn't a member of Japan - Richard Barbieri, the keyboardist was though.
Robert Fripp appeared on FOTBP and Gavin Harrison just toured with King Crimson here in the U.S. so there are some connections there. Steven Wilson is a master at producing records so he seems to be the logical choice for these, especially for the 5.1 discs. Edited by rushaholic - July 21 2009 at 19:07 |
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Big Ears ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 08 2005 Location: Hants, England Status: Offline Points: 727 |
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I just can't help feeling that Greg Lake would have been a better choice as he has relevant production experience and was a key part of the album. If Robert Fripp is concerned about giving priority to technical elements he could do worse than revisit Larks' Tongues in Aspic and adjust the volume levels. I'm showing my ignorance here, but by 5.1 do you mean quadraphonic? Do many people own these systems?
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lildabaduye ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: July 05 2009 Location: SanDiego Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Fripp has also posted a download of Disengage with Phil Collins and John Wetton prior to Exposure recording...
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mattmcl ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: April 08 2008 Location: Erie, CO Status: Offline Points: 25 |
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5.1 is home theater- right and left front, right and left rear, and center. The ".1" refers to a subwoofer. Discrete signals are sent to each channel, which give a sense of immersion unlike anything you can get with two-channel stereo. Yes, a lot of people have these setups.
My problem is that most home theater systems (mine included) aren't designed for music. The speakers are made more for sound effects and speech. Nah, give me a regular CD, a pair of seriously capable speakers and a good amp without all the fancy staging effects. I just don't enjoy music in 5.1 the way I do in hifi. |
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lildabaduye ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: July 05 2009 Location: SanDiego Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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5.1 is Dolby surround sound. Wilson is a great choice being that PT has obviously studied Crimson as a point of departure. Lake might have been a good choice, but some of his production is not as strong. My first Larks Tongues CD (not a DGM release) was horrible sound. I sold it and kept the vinyl. The last Larks Tongues CD that I had had infinitely better sound. These new surround sound should knock the paint off your walls. Fripp has such precision, he probably wouldn't stand anything less. Choosing Lizard as one of the early releases is an intriguing choice, since it is a great LP but not the most popular (kinda the black sheep of the family). I am looking forward to the new releases.
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Bitterblogger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: November 04 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1719 |
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I second with emphasis, but I believe "I Talk To The Wind". . .
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Big Ears ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 08 2005 Location: Hants, England Status: Offline Points: 727 |
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Do you have to have a dedicated amplifier for 5.1 surround? Sorry, but my first record player was mono, my television was black and white and we listened to the BBC Light programme.
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rushaholic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 13 2005 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1138 |
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Just because your first television was black and white and your first record player was mono doesn't mean that you continue to watch and listen that way.
The 5.1 recordings that I have heard are fantastic. Modernize and enjoy. |
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CPicard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 03 2008 Location: Là, sui monti. Status: Offline Points: 10841 |
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Yeah, I guess you have 1 album in every format: LP, K7, CD, 5.1, CD+, Blu Ray... Every format.
But only 1 album. Anyway, if I can join the sheeps, I would take the 5.1 too for sure. |
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Big Ears ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 08 2005 Location: Hants, England Status: Offline Points: 727 |
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It does if you don't have pots of money and do have bills to pay. New formats are often ways of making money for big companies. Repeat: do you need a dedicated amplifier for 5.1? Edited by Big Ears - July 23 2009 at 03:18 |
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 19747 |
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Provided you have a real 5.0 system, yes.
You'll not hear anything worthy in your normal home cinema system (wxhich happens to be a 4.1 anyway). andthe 5.1 is costing £$£€£$*$€€.€$
I'm with Jos here, just stick with the 30th, especially it you've got them in cardboard sleeves.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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kuwert ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: June 25 2008 Location: Portland, OR Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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Why stick with the 30th... forget 5.1, hi-res stereo ftw :)
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deafmoon ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: March 24 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 462 |
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I have owned ITCOTCK on many different formats - including cassette - because the album is classic. Last year I upgraded and bought the DGM Japan Mini LP sleeve to bring back a bit of nostalgia while I held the Mini-LP. And plus awesome sound! LET'S GET SMALL!
So, I feel comfortable stopping there and I'll spend my hard earned money on exploring newer music.
But, this in itself is a problem. Much of the newer music has bits 'n pieces of glorious stuff, but it doesn't stand the test of time because the fertile hotbead is really populated by only a few genuises. Steve Wilson is one of them. But, for his song-writing, not his production. I'm not convinced on this one.
Maybe it really just gets down to Fripp's bank account. As with all artists, you need money. So this is his modus-operandi to generate that. If you want to help, buy the newer versions, if you don't, that's cool too.
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Ole Troll ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: May 14 2009 Location: Ohio Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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Triangles ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: August 09 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Are there any news on release dates or plans for the next albums? I alredy think it's odd they release both the first and the last albums of the 70's period, without even mentioning the ones in the middle.
I think Red and ITCOTCK are great, but my personal favorites are Lark's and Islands. I'm looking foward to the new versions of these. |
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Pekka ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 03 2006 Location: Espoo, Finland Status: Offline Points: 6442 |
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http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/news/Steven-Wilson-On-Remixing-King-Crimson-20442.aspx
Is this old news? AUG 10.09 STEVEN WILSON ON RE-MIXING KING CRIMSON ![]()
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Jake Kobrin ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: September 20 2008 Status: Offline Points: 1303 |
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I'll buy ItCotCK, Red, and Larks Tounge at least. I'm fairly excited to hear these, and the Beatles remasters as well.
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The Sleepwalker ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 03 2009 Location: The Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 15141 |
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This might be a good reason to buy ITCOTCK. I'm really curious about the 4CD/DVDA box set.
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