Marillion ... Clutching at Straws vs Brave |
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The Doctor
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Posted: November 20 2009 at 17:09 | |
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: November 20 2009 at 17:13 | |
CAS is my favorite Marillion album.
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splyu
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Posted: November 20 2009 at 17:51 | |
Well put indeed. It's been a while - a long while actually - since I last heard Brave. There are exactly two things I can remember from it right now: one is Hogarth singing "What a brave, brave girl"; the other is a really nice little piano line. That's not to say I'd necessarily put it below CaS though... Marillion is one of those rare bands that I used to really love but my interest in which just died away at some point. |
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Marfan
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Posted: November 21 2009 at 22:47 | |
A difficult choice, but, I would choose "Brave". When I listened to this release the first time I was somewhat disappointed, however, like many of Marillion's CDs it really grew on me. "Living with the Big Lie" and "The Great Escape" are outstanding tracks - so much emotion.
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: November 22 2009 at 01:39 | |
THAT CAME OUT AFTER 1989 YOU CANT LIKE IT ITS NOT ALOUD YOU ONLY LIEK MUSIC PRE1989 LOL |
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: November 22 2009 at 15:07 | |
Clutching at Straws is much better than it's reputation, but Brave is arguably the Hogarth era masterpiece. I have to go Brave here.
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Basíleia
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Posted: December 15 2009 at 11:11 | |
And is a good thing, you reckon? I experience the same thing, and that's what makes this such a special album the feeling you get! Can't put my finger on it...
Clutching at Straws is a fantastic album and Fish's lyrics > any othernone's lyrics, of course...
The first three songs from CaS....just to die for; on the other hand, Brave has got the marvelous Goodbye to All That.......Brave, however, is a concept album and CaS is not....So my vote goes to Brave!!!
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Bonnek
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Posted: December 15 2009 at 13:01 | |
Am I the only one to find Brave one of the lesser Hogarth albums?
Clutching at Straw by miles. You can't imagine how happy I felt when I rushed out of the record store the day it was released! Didn't feel that happy after listening though :-) But it's a grower. |
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lazland
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Posted: December 15 2009 at 14:13 | |
Brave, without any hesitation at all.
Clutching at Straws is a very good album, but, by then, the tensions within the band were clearly manifesting themselves on record. Brave is an utter masterpiece, a work of pure genius, and easily falls within my top five albums of all time. The emotion, storyline, intensity, musicianship - this one has it all, and I defy anyone not to get overcome by The Great Escape, simply the greatest piece of music ever committed to a disc. |
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mohaveman
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Posted: December 15 2009 at 14:44 | |
Clutching at Straws cuz of Fish
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mohaveman
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Posted: December 15 2009 at 14:49 | |
Clutching at Straws
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Green Shield Stamp
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Posted: December 15 2009 at 15:37 | |
Clutching at Straws.
Brave was the first and last Hogarth-era Marillion album I bought. For me, Fish was the person that made the band special. His idiosyncratic and dramatic singing style, coupled with his poetic lyrics were so distinctive. Post-Fish Marillion sounds kind of bland and bloodless in comparision. Clutching at Straws was the weakest Fish-era Marillion studio album by a significant margin, but it is superior to any Hogarth album.
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octopus-4
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Posted: February 17 2010 at 10:20 | |
None of the two is their best. Clutching wins more for lyrics than for music. Brave is the last Marillion album that I have enjoyed. Afraid of Sunlight the last that I have purchased.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: February 17 2010 at 10:23 | |
Both great, though I'm more fond of Brave than Clutching at Straws, since if I want to listen to Fish I usually pick Script, while when I want to listen to Hogarth it's either Brave or Somewhere Else.
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J-Man
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Posted: February 17 2010 at 20:30 | |
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Finnforest
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Posted: February 17 2010 at 20:32 | |
Clutching is the weakest Fish album IMO.
Brave by a mile. |
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Man With Hat
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Posted: February 17 2010 at 20:48 | |
CAS easily.
Never liked Brave. Very boring overall for my ears. CAS is one of my favorites however.
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Camel666
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 25 2009 Status: Offline Points: 133 |
Posted: February 18 2010 at 03:13 | |
Brave is a masterpiece. A wonderful story beautifully told in a very personal way. I find it deeply moving.
Clutching at straws is a very fine album indeed but it lacks that special something. |
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