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Points: 3449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2009 at 18:36
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Hard for me to say.  I'd guess one of the rarest flood survivors would be a deluxe edition LP of Jethro Tull's Living In The Past.  It has a hard cardboard outer cover and nice inner booklet.   I also have a Jon Anderson Olias Of Sunhillow with a great inner booklet.  Sadly many of my out of print ECM label LPs that I thought were on the top shelf got flood damaged.  CD wise, I'm not so sure but as I've been collecting since the '80's I bet there's a few rare ones there.  Also my original open up cover LP of Brain Salad Surgery was ruined. Cry
I have Living In The Past on vinyl as well.  A reminder of what albums used to be.  Heavy cardboard cover, page after page of photos, and by the way two very good albums hidden away in all that packaging.  Sadly, my old Thick As A Brick newspaper album has gone by the wayside, sometime, somehow.  Still have the original ELP BSS vinyl as well, poster intact. 
 
Also still have all the original Zappa vinyl, from Freak Out to Joe's Garage, in various states of disrepair, but with all the little posters/booklets intact.  Not to mention my United Mutations stuff from FZ.  Search carefully on the web and you'll find a copy of my UM membership certificate.  Ah hell, here's the link:
 
 
And of course all of the original Beatles vinyl.
 
And of course BTO's greatist hits LOL
 
 
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Points: 7028 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2009 at 19:19
Gravy Train - Second Birth on vinyl perhaps
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Points: 65844 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2009 at 19:26
hmm, I guess Jon Lord's Sarabande LP with the original cutway image on the cover-- then probably the Arzachel record (though it's a reprint).. as for CDs, Bruford's The Bruford Tapes and Lord Flimnap's Point of View pretty rare


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Points: 9455 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2009 at 19:38
Some Aussie recordings that should all be on PA, but are not...
 
On LP...
 
Masters Apprentices: Choice Cuts (not quite prog but very rare in an Aussie pressing)
Masters Apprentices: A Toast To Panama Red
Chetarca: Chetarca
Quasar: Nebular Tragectory
Quasar: Man Coda
Crosffire: Crossfire
 
And on CD...
 
Crossfire: Tension Release
 
And one that can't be on PA because it is an unofficial release...
 
Cybotron: Sunday Night At The Total Theatre
 
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Points: 9455 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2009 at 19:40
,,,and I forgot on LP...
 
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Points: 3196 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2009 at 20:15
Would 'Fogdiver' by the ocean count as teh rarezzZ?
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How do you define a rare album? Some of the stuff mentioned on here i've never heard before....is that what makes it rare...no one has ever heard of it? Or is it famous groups whose albums are well known but first pressings make them more engaging?
Surely an album released by basically an unkown group in 2001 would be less valuable than an album released 60/70's.
Or is it as i see......valuable albums are only valuable as long as some mug is prepepared to pay the ridiculous price for.....on the other hand (brings on a heinous crime) search the internet you generally find what you want..
A rare album is seldom listened to........why might that be?
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Points: 16122 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2009 at 21:37
It's rare if it is difficult to obtain a physical hard copy of the CD, vinyl, or cassette nowadays.
The reason you haven't heard of many of these artists is because you're on ProgArchives... hardly any of this is mainstream, and not much is current, either Smile

@Conor Fynes,
If you have it on its original CD, which is fairly difficult to find, then sure, it could be considered rare
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The Young Person's Guide to King Crimson (Jap import) 2X cd's
Jade Warrior-Floating World, Waves, Kites and Way of the Sun....only rare because Eclectic label folded.
Jade Warrior-Reflections.........A rare cd release ....maybe from South Korea?
The Enid-In the Region of the Summer Stars.......has different cover than remaster and is on Si-Wan label.
Pink Floyd-Relics.....the cover has a picture of coins. A French import cd.
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Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Originally posted by hektur hektur wrote:

I dont have anything very rare, I suppose The Incident Deluxe Edition and Ilosaarirock are both limited releases by PT, I just dont know how limited they are though.


Ilosaarirock are super rare now, The Incident LE is not too rare but pretty hard to find.


I have a copy of the original pressing on CD of Porcupine Tree's Futile EP, which the material on is near impossible to find. I bought it off a teacher at my school who's wife is a radio manager who received it for free.
He also lent me his copy of Recordings.

I also have three of Porcupine Tree's singles which go for quite a bit on ebay.


Yeah, the problem with me getting into PT recently, is that now I want, NEED to have every single song by them! Wish I'd heard of them years ago, so I could have bought Recordings and some of the singles. I want CD versions of Buying New Soul, Disappear, Mother and Child Divided,  Futile, Half Light, So Called Friend, etc. 

I've heard these songs on the Arriving Somewhere DVD and on the Stupid Dream and Lightbulb Sun DVD As. I want to stick them on my Ipod though. PT B sides are as good as the stuff that made it onto the albums. Fortunately, I bought Nil Recurring. But I think even that's pretty rare these days. PT should reissue some of these discs like they did with the long-out-of-print Lightbulb Sun. Recordings was supposed to be reissued, but I don't think it ever was. 

I thought about ebaying some of these PT rarities, until I noticed the ultra rare Futile EP was going for more than 500 bucks US.  

Also, apparently, even Steve Wilsons solo disc Insurgentes (the CD and DVD-A version, which I was fortunate enough to find and purchase) is quite hard to find a copy of. 
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The only remotely rare thing I have is Weidorje...I'm not really a collector.
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I have Porcupine Tree's Recordings, which had a limited number of copies and was selling for quite a bit on the web. I heard that it was supposed to be re-issued, but I'm not sure if it has or not.  I'm not really sure how rare it is around these parts however.

I heard they were going to reissue it, like they did with the Delirium era albums, and Stupid Dream and Lightbulb Sun, recently. I don't think it has been reprinted. I've looked for it in record stores everywhere, and on websites. I think its completely out of print. They ought to reissue it.
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Points: 19643 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2009 at 04:13
Originally posted by Kashmir75 Kashmir75 wrote:


Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I have Porcupine Tree's Recordings, which had a limited number of copies and was selling for quite a bit on the web. I heard that it was supposed to be re-issued, but I'm not sure if it has or not.  I'm not really sure how rare it is around these parts however.

I heard they were going to reissue it, like they did with the Delirium era albums, and Stupid Dream and Lightbulb Sun, recently. I don't think it has been reprinted. I've looked for it in record stores everywhere, and on websites. I think its completely out of print. They ought to reissue it.


I emailed the Porcupine Tree online store and asked if a Reissue of Recordings was planned about a month ago, and I got a reply saying that there wasn't any current plans to re-issue it, but they might be continuing the reissues of the old stuff after The Incident tour is done
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Points: 1029 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2009 at 04:30
I'd love some more PT reissues. Best news I've heard for months. A PT nut like myself now has nothing left to buy after I've got all their studio albums, currently available EPs, live albums, and their DVD. Their recent popularity must have convinced them there's a demand for their older stuff.

Key word though. 'Might' be continuing. Fingers crossed!

I hear they've a new DVD out in 2010 as well.
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Also, progkidjoel, I notice you're in Oz. As am I. Are you gonna see them next year?

I really want to go to the Melbourne PT concert in February.
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^Yep, I'm seeing them in Sydney. Got tickets for xmas Here's a thread I opened a while ago about the new DVD, looks amazing. Especially the set list:

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61019&KW=Porcupine+DVD
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I don't know know exactly how rare it is but up till now I'm the only one who rated/reviewed Paragone's self-titled CD. So either it's impopular or it's rare. Nice album by the way. Besides this one I have a whole bunch of SI disks, a label that went bankrupt in the mid nineties and some of the bands that were contracted there never had a re-issue made. So they are pretty rare I guess.

While we're at it: I have lots of so called "limited bonus editions" of many prog albums. Does anyone know how limited these are in most cases ? I have the feeling this is just a commercial selling trick or something.

 
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Rainbow Ffollies: Sallies Fforth (a Sgt Pepper spoof of sorts). Picked up from the Musicland store (once next to London's Oxford Street tube station) for half a crown and there were probably another 50 copies going for either that price or 5 bob depending on the sleeve quality.  With hindsight I wish I had bought several more copies, seeing rarity value pushed the album to 150-200 quid at one time in the 90's

BTW how many eponymous  Led Zeppelin LPs with the turquoise lettering on the front sleeve, were pressed up?
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Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

Pink Floyd-Relics.....the cover has a picture of coins. A French import cd.

I had that once as well - mine was an Australian import, purchased by a friend there for ~US$15 and sent to me in the US.  I put it up for auction on the Pink Floyd Echoes mailing list (this was pre-eBay) and the bid went over $200, then the news broke that it would receive a US pressing.  I ended up selling it for $75.

Like several others here, and I also have the gatefold LPs of Tull's Living in the Past, Thick as a Brick, and Jon Anderson's Olias of Sunhillow.  Those weren't hard to find in my college days (mid-80s) in the used record shops.
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Originally posted by progrules progrules wrote:

While we're at it: I have lots of so called "limited bonus editions" of many prog albums. Does anyone know how limited these are in most cases ? I have the feeling this is just a commercial selling trick or something.

 


Repertoire Records labelled a number of prog reissues 3 or 4 years ago, some in replicated sleeves, as either 1000 or 5000 limited editions. I presume with UK trades description laws this was what was available.....

I'm sure other labels play clever and only press up a limited number of CDs to meet some predicted initial sales figure, and then wait for orders to meet some critical number before running a second pressing. I waited over a year before I got a copy of 64 Spoons, after ordering it. I notice that the Kevin Gilbert estates have recently put back on sale Shaming of The Truth, with numbers of folks  through late 2008 and early 2009 complaining about non-availability, which smacks of a fresh pressing.

One musician told me he recorded and issued his band's own CDs, having a few thousand pressed up for sale at gigs and from their own website. He reckoned at 5000 CDs sold a year the band could survive, however, whilst signed previously to a well known prog label, their contract only lasted as long as 50,000 CDs per annum were sold - they lasted 2 albums....
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