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I don't care what anyone says. Growls, when done in a proper context can be amazing.
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Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

The problem is not the harshness of the sounds as a means of catharsis--not to be pretentious, but I think a lot of the things I listen to are a lot more annoying than a growl. If they were growling as an expression of pure incoherent rage I could like it, but controlling it enough so that the growls are forming words ruins what should be spontaneous and unstoppable. I can't believe in the catharsis if the growls are the way you're expressing elaborate lyrics. If someone in real life were moved to growl (as I sometimes am, usually in the shower), they would not be reciting pseudo-poetry!

Maybe if they sounded like Mike Patton in The Darkness it would be better.


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I was watching that Science thing with Richard Hammond presenting it and all she did throughout was talk about their tests not being fair and stuff.  Shut up, Mother!  It's not a serious science programme.
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One of the best examples I can give is the first few lines of The Morningside's The Wind. The growls on that song are pretty average, but I can't help but feel the power of them in context. I have had a tough last few months, and those growls let me release some of my anger in a benign way.
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Arf she said.
 
And yay Ulver discussion.
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The problem is not the harshness of the sounds as a means of catharsis--not to be pretentious, but I think a lot of the things I listen to are a lot more annoying than a growl. If they were growling as an expression of pure incoherent rage I could like it, but controlling it enough so that the growls are forming words ruins what should be spontaneous and unstoppable. I can't believe in the catharsis if the growls are the way you're expressing elaborate lyrics. If someone in real life were moved to growl (as I sometimes am, usually in the shower), they would not be reciting pseudo-poetry!

Maybe if they sounded like Mike Patton in The Darkness it would be better.


Edited by Henry Plainview - February 08 2010 at 01:07
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Don't like screams, didn't like growls for a long time until Still Life. Before that I just tolerated them really. Clean vocals ftw overall though.
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That is a fair point. I certainly don't prefer growls over clean vocals, but having said that, a good growl every now and then is almost like a cathartic experience for me.

Edited by Any Colour You Like - February 08 2010 at 00:52
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I used to also love Natten's Madrigal, but I don't know if I will ever be able to get into death or tech metal: the screams of the former are too controlled so they just sound silly, and the latter is so static and even formalist I'm bored to tears.

Edited by Henry Plainview - February 08 2010 at 00:36
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That reminds me.  I need to put some metal on my USB stick.  I don't have much. so it may have to be some Opeth (probably Blackwater Park and Ghost Reveries) and Agalloch.

I do have a Pelican album but I find post-metal a bit on the boring side.
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Originally posted by James James wrote:

Rico's missing out on this album because of his silly anti-metal leanings.  Especially as this isn't metal in the slightest.


Anti-metal folks obviously haven't tried to like metal. I hated metal 3 years ago, now I love some death/doom/tech metal.
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Rico's missing out on this album because of his silly anti-metal leanings.  Especially as this isn't metal in the slightest.
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Originally posted by Evolutionary_Sleeper Evolutionary_Sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

I need Kveldssanger to satisfy my Folk leanings.


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I'll get it when I get paid from work. I need it baaaaaadly.
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A Quick Fix of Melancholy used to nearly drive me to tears.

But I was suffering from personal problems...

Speaking of personal problems, I just watched Synecdoche, New York. And even though I already knew what synecdoche means, I have no idea what happened! 
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I need some Comus quite badly.

Anywho, I shall be off for an hour or so. Possibly c u guize thenlol.
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Points: 7037 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2010 at 00:24
Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

I need Kveldssanger to satisfy my Folk leanings.


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I need Kveldssanger to satisfy my Folk leanings.
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Points: 7037 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2010 at 00:22
Anyway, I just have them all tagged electronic except for the 3 i mentioned.
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2010 at 00:21
Well, Perdition City (which I keep wanting to name Perdido Station which is a novel by China Miéville) is how I described it above.
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Points: 7037 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2010 at 00:20
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by Evolutionary_Sleeper Evolutionary_Sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Damn it, I filed Ulver under metal... which was completely wrong.  Now where do I put it? LOL


Um..I dunno. Electronic? AVANT!?!?


It's a tough one.

They're like a non-jazz Jaga Jazzist but with traces of avant here and there.  But yes, it has strong Portishead/Massive Attack influences.  Maybe even some Prodigy.


The thing is. None of their albums sound alike, even though they're all electronic. (Save for the first 3 that is.)


Edited by Evolutionary_Sleeper - February 08 2010 at 00:20
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