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There are Europe/US versions of the same album, stated as separate albums. Cover picture and album's name is the same, all difference is in track list. I believe original (UK) release could stay, with information about US release and US track list inside of it (it was done yet before). Happily, US release has no reviews.
 
 
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Originally posted by Rune2000 Rune2000 wrote:

I'm not sure that this entry should be listed as a studio album:
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=28062
 
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I'm not sure that this entry should be listed as a studio album:
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=28062
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thanks, it's gone
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26954
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26953
 
These are the same. While the first one could be deleted, the second needs additional info.
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Originally posted by JLocke JLocke wrote:

Originally posted by Rune2000 Rune2000 wrote:

What is the reasoning behind two versions of Transatlantic's Bridge Across Forever album listed?
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1342
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1343
Their latest album The Whirlwind has also a Limited Edition version so should it be added as well?

^ I've never understood that, either. The same thing has been done with Henry Cow's reissues. It's basically an excuse for us to boost our reviews number by simply reviewing the same album twice (one review per version). While I do enjoy that quite a bit, it makes for some confused newcomers, I'm sure. 


Thank you for your response!
I completely agree with you on Henry Cow reissues as well. Just like with Transatlantic albums those were also added back-to-back which, together with the lack of any info on the issue, would suggest that this whole discussion has been taken up before. In that case, could somebody please guide me to that forum topic.
Otherwise I will have to start adding all the Special Edition versions of Dream Theater/Transatlantic etc. just to see what happens. LOL
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^ Whenever it is not a clear case, so it's good to have discussion on itBig smile. I was not sure in my decision, so we must do as we'll see is more logic nowWink
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Originally posted by snobb snobb wrote:

I thought long before adding Hendrix under compilations ( to be honest, I added it first under studio albums, but than transfered). I believe that label would like to see it as studio one, in fact all the marketing is done as this. But in real life there are all but one slightly different versions of previously released songs ( so one really new could be counted as "bonus"), and nothing was recorded specially for this album.
 
So, I decided it's more true compilation,than studio one ( we understand that no one never worked in studio to record material FOR this album). But doesn't matter, this, firstly added version has firs review as well,so it should stay. It's not a big deal just to transfer it into studio albums (if).

Yeah, sorry, I wasn't trying to call anybody out specifically (I didn't even look to see who added it first). I just figured since it's a studio album in the record label's eyes, it might as well be put there so that people will see it immediately, and hopefully will realize they don't need to add it. Wink
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The fact that it is released under the guidance of Experience Hendrix adds much to it's credibility as basically this collection of family, friends and philanthropist lawyers are in charge of Jimi's legacy from a legal point of view, and for once that legacy is in the hands of the right people.

I'd say it is a legitimate post-humus studio release.
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I thought long before adding Hendrix under compilations ( to be honest, I added it first under studio albums, but than transfered). I believe that label would like to see it as studio one, in fact all the marketing is done as this. But in real life there are all but one slightly different versions of previously released songs ( so one really new could be counted as "bonus"), and nothing was recorded specially for this album.
 
So, I decided it's more true compilation,than studio one ( we understand that no one never worked in studio to record material FOR this album). But doesn't matter, this, firstly added version has firs review as well,so it should stay. It's not a big deal just to transfer it into studio albums (if).
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^ LOL Yeah, I know what you mean. 
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Originally posted by JLocke JLocke wrote:


Originally posted by snobb snobb wrote:

Someone just added new Hendrix album once again. This should be deleted:
 


Well, if it would quite being moved to the 'compilations' section and be left alone in the 'studio albums' section where it belongs, people would actually see it, and quite uploading it. 
The content on that album wasn't taken from previous releases, and the songs WERE taken from a studio session by Hendrix that are unique to this release. So it's a studio album. 



I like your reasoning on that Micah, even if the idea of a post-humus studio album is a little creepy.
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Originally posted by snobb snobb wrote:

Someone just added new Hendrix album once again. This should be deleted:
 

Well, if it would quite being moved to the 'compilations' section and be left alone in the 'studio albums' section where it belongs, people would actually see it, and quite uploading it. 

The content on that album wasn't taken from previous releases, and the songs WERE taken from a studio session by Hendrix that are unique to this release. So it's a studio album. 
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Originally posted by Rune2000 Rune2000 wrote:

What is the reasoning behind two versions of Transatlantic's Bridge Across Forever album listed?
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1342
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1343
Their latest album The Whirlwind has also a Limited Edition version so should it be added as well?

^ I've never understood that, either. The same thing has been done with Henry Cow's reissues. It's basically an excuse for us to boost our reviews number by simply reviewing the same album twice (one review per version). While I do enjoy that quite a bit, it makes for some confused newcomers, I'm sure. 
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Someone just added new Hendrix album once again. This should be deleted:
 
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What is the reasoning behind two versions of Transatlantic's Bridge Across Forever album listed?
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1342
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1343
Their latest album The Whirlwind has also a Limited Edition version so should it be added as well?
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Originally posted by snobb snobb wrote:

^I believe that there is usual decision on PA - original release (cover ) is included as main one, and all re-releases/versions are just stated in inside details. There are really many of albums completed like this.

If you will find such albums, please just inform there on this thread.
 

Discussion about alternative covers is not new there, and I fully agree with you. But I think there are technical problems why we don't have this possibility on PA till now.At least, is more important just to place all possible info about alternative releases/covers of original album on it's page.


QFT, thanks Snobb.

Re Hendrix duplicates, I'll fix those later.

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^I believe that there is usual decision on PA - original release (cover ) is included as main one, and all re-releases/versions are just stated in inside details. There are really many of albums completed like this.
If you will find such albums, please just inform there on this thread.
 
Discussion about alternative covers is not new there, and I fully agree with you. But I think there are technical problems why we don't have this possibility on PA till now.At least, is more important just to place all possible info about alternative releases/covers of original album on it's page.
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Originally posted by snobb snobb wrote:

These two albums are in fact the same. This one is original release:
 

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=10855

And the second is just re-release of the same songs ( but under different names) under different name and cover picture. Re-release was issued for different markets. I think it will be good just to leave original one (with information about alternative re-release inside). Unhappily, both of them have reviews. There is the re-release:

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2329

 




Well, I think there were much more albums re-released under different name, cover and/or tracks names -  to name one (two?Wink): Tangerine Dream - Quichotte / Pergamon, which at Progarchives are two different albums...

In my opinion there should be one procedure how to treat such situations (re-released albums, different editions, different covers etc.) there at Progarchives.

In the SBB's case, removing Slovenian Girls made me think that something like "alternate cover" feature should be really useful. Discuss. Smile
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The Jimi Hendrix page needs a general clean-up:
 
Musique Originale du Film Jimi Plays Berkley:
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23380
One is listed as a live album, the other as a compliation. I don''t know which is right.
 
 
DVD Video Sampler:
 
Live at Monterey
These seems to be a DVD version and a Blu-Ray version of the same movie, there's no differnece in the track listing, except for the misspelling of track 4, Foxy Lady, on the DVD version.
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