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BaldFriede
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Posted: November 08 2010 at 11:47 |
I never said I had not heard the name; I only had not heard the mujsic.. And, due to their marketing campaign, I had always fikled them under hard rock. There was a short TV advert for a hard rock sampler I remember; Rush was one of the bands on i, and they played a few bars off their mnusic during that advert (as well as of other bands), and the category seemed tol fit from what i heard. But I am very thankful to you all for the interest you all take in my home country, since you appear to be experts on it and especially on how Rush is being regarded here. It wll certainly be pointless to invite yoiu here since you know all about Germany already.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 08 2010 at 11:51 |
This argument is getting incredibly irritating. I and some fellow fans think Neil is bee's knees as far as drumming is concerned. Another contingent think he's only regarded highly due to us being fans and that he's not all that.
I offer that I know what I like and other opinions are valid but to say that Neil must have great PA to convince evryone he is good is frankly offensive.
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Padraic
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Posted: November 08 2010 at 11:53 |
What's more irritating is that we've had the same argument about 3-4 times a year for the past four years, at least.
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: November 08 2010 at 11:54 |
Snow Dog wrote:
This argument is getting incredibly irritating. I and some fellow fans think Neil is bee's knees as far as drumming is concerned. Another contingent think he's only regarded highly due to us being fans and that he's not all that.
I offer that I know what I like and other opinions are valid but to say that Neil must have great PA to convince evryone he is good is frankly offensive. |
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Tony R
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Posted: November 08 2010 at 11:58 |
BaldFriede wrote:
I never said I had not heard the name; I only had not heard the mujsic..
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You can believe me when I say I had not heard of him before I came to
this site. And I think most people will agree that I know a lot of prog
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Ok, so English is not your first language but I am fairly sure one as erudite as you are would know the difference in English between heard and heard of... 
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 08 2010 at 12:00 |
Mellotron Storm wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
This argument is getting incredibly irritating. I and some fellow fans think Neil is bee's knees as far as drumming is concerned. Another contingent think he's only regarded highly due to us being fans and that he's not all that.
I offer that I know what I like and other opinions are valid but to say that Neil must have great PA to convince evryone he is good is frankly offensive. |
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Shame about my grammatical errors/ 
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Tony R
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Posted: November 08 2010 at 12:03 |
BaldFriede wrote:
I never said I had not heard the name; I only had not heard the mujsic.. And, due to their marketing campaign, I had always fikled them under hard rock. There was a short TV advert for a hard rock sampler I remember; Rush was one of the bands on i, and they played a few bars off their mnusic during that advert (as well as of other bands), and the category seemed tol fit from what i heard. But I am very thankful to you all for the interest you all take in my home country, since you appear to be experts on it and especially on how Rush is being regarded here. It wll certainly be pointless to invite yoiu here since you know all about Germany already.
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So your supreme knowledge of Rush is based on a few bars heard on a TV advert. Come on, you're better than this! German Ad Man: I have this brilliant plan to market Rush as a Prog band... German Record Company: You're fired!
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BaldFriede
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Posted: November 08 2010 at 12:20 |
No, you stll don't get me. I had not really heard Rush before I came to this site and surprisingly learned they are considered to be a prog band since I and everyone I knew considered them to be a hard rock band. Their appearing on a samopler which featured a bare-breasted man in black leather tights shouting into a microphone would have let you guessed the same about them. For some reason I had never discussed Rush with Jean (why should I start a discussion about them with her?) Since then I have heard them of course, though I have to say they did not impress me much. Had I discussed Rush with Jean she would have told me she consdered them to be epigones, by the way.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: November 08 2010 at 12:23 |
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Tony R
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Posted: November 08 2010 at 12:32 |
BaldFriede wrote:
No, you stll don't get me. I had not really heard Rush before I came to this site and surprisingly learned they are considered to be a prog band since I and everyone I knew considered them to be a hard rock band.
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You considered them to be a hard rock band without not really having heard Rush before. I hope you have a little more insight than that when you offer your opinions on other subjects on these forums.  With apologies to Descartes: I think therefore I know
Edited by Tony R - November 08 2010 at 12:33
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 08 2010 at 12:37 |
One thing we know for a fact. Rush is popular in Germany.
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Padraic
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Posted: November 08 2010 at 12:39 |
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One thing we know for a fact. David Hasselhoff is popular in Germany. |
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Tony R
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Posted: November 08 2010 at 12:41 |
Snow Dog wrote:
One thing we know for a fact. Rush is popular in Germany. |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 08 2010 at 12:41 |
Padraic wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
One thing we know for a fact. David Hasselhoff is popular in Germany. |
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What can I say......he is the most popular in Germany. 
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digdug
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Posted: November 08 2010 at 12:47 |
Peart is my fave drummer of all time.....
Many other great ones but he is at the top.
Watching his drum solos live is magical!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 08 2010 at 12:51 |
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BaldFriede
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Posted: November 08 2010 at 13:16 |
Tony R wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
No, you stll don't get me. I had not really heard Rush before I came to this site and surprisingly learned they are considered to be a prog band since I and everyone I knew considered them to be a hard rock band.
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You considered them to be a hard rock band without not really having heard Rush before.
I hope you have a little more insight than that when you offer your opinions on other subjects on these forums.
With apologies to Descartes:
I think therefore I know
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I had seen the tv-ad for that hard rock sampler; the few bars of what I heard orf Rush in it did not contradict their being a hard rock band at all,. And I was certainly not alone in my opinion. Whenever their name way mentioned in my presence they were considered to be a hard rock band.
Edited by BaldFriede - November 08 2010 at 13:18
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rushfan4
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Posted: November 08 2010 at 13:17 |
And of course Genesis and Yes are only pop bands because they have songs that appear on Pop 40 compilation albums.
Edited by rushfan4 - November 08 2010 at 13:18
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BaldFriede
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Posted: November 08 2010 at 13:51 |
rushfan4 wrote:
And of course Genesis and Yes are only pop bands because they have songs that appear on Pop 40 compilation albums. |
What is that supposed to mean?= I had heard Genesis and Yes long bedore I heard Rush for the first time, including that bit of an ad, and they were certainly nnot pop bands then. Anyway, anyone who is dicsussing this with me should read what I said about Peart earlier. I am not doubring hiws skills az al, I ust doubt "Peart is the überdrummer",skillwise as well as reputationwise. Saying he is the most popular drummer on the planet is an incredibly keen statement. Why are you Rush fans always so sensitive when someone disagrees about their status as übermuscians? The fans of no other band do that in the first place, or if so very rarely, but with Rush fans it is almost compulösive.. Accept it, guys: There are musicians who are just as able and acts which are just as popular,.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 08 2010 at 13:53 |
BaldFriede wrote:
rushfan4 wrote:
And of course Genesis and Yes are only pop bands because they have songs that appear on Pop 40 compilation albums. |
What is that supposed to mean?= I had heard Genesis and Yes long bedore I heard Rush for the first time, including that bit of an ad, and they were certainly nnot pop bands then. Anyway, anyone who is dicsussing this with me should read what I said about Peart earlier. I am not doubring hiws skills az al, I ust doubt "Peart is the überdrummer",skillwise as well as reputationwise. Saying he is the most popular drummer on the planet is an incredibly keen statement. Why are you Rush fans always so sensitive when someone disagrees about their status as übermuscians? The fans of no other band do that in the first place, or if so very rarely, but with Rush fans it is almost compulösive.. Accept it, guys: There are musicians who are just as able and acts which are just as popular,.
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It's because you put down us Peart fans as not knowing any better.
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