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Equality 7-2521 
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Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
 Posted: January 24 2011 at 07:33 |
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Even if the best intentioned person is left to wield the power of the state for good, there is simply no fair way to use it. Power is force, and force itself is the problem. Not to mention how easily corruptible once can be when faced with such prestige, power, and good intentions.
You're on the good side now T. No worries. I think we have all pretty much come from there. It's such a easy position which doesn't require much thought to grasp, and it appeals to our sense of morality. |
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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The T
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: January 24 2011 at 00:34 |
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As you will probably not know, my country, once a peaceful place, is now ridden with crime. The other day the socialist president, when asked about the safety crisis, said, translated as good as I can: "well, people have to let criminals rob them, lest they kill them"
f**k socio-fascism is destroying my country. Now he wants to use a popular referendum (since he's popular with the poor ignorant masses) to start imposing his allmighty will. Socialism's ends need fascist means. And in the end, as evidenced there, Orwell's famous Animal Farm phrase is so true: "all are equal, but some are more equal than others". I hate myself for ever having defended "free market socialism". I'm starting to see is the most manipulative oxymoron around. For, if at the start it might well be free, it tends to degenerate in the dictatorship of, not even the proletariat, but grey, dark, insidious, lying bureaucrats. |
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Equality 7-2521
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Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: January 23 2011 at 13:22 |
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Ron Paul is the only person from either of the two parties that I would elect to any office.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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The T
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: January 23 2011 at 12:32 |
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Libertarians: with the exception of Ron Paul, voting republican is as incoherent for you as voting democrat. Yes, the latter want more government, but republicans want it anyway, just instead of making it uber-powerful they want to give it to their friends in corporations. Also, in personal freedoms, I'm not sure which side is worse.
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stonebeard
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Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
Posted: January 23 2011 at 12:25 |
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I'm nt even very hardcore libertarian, but Ron Paul is one of 3 people I would ever vote for president currently. 1) Ron Paul 2) Mitch Daniels (Governor, IN) 3) Richard Luger (Sen., IN) Luger will never run, and Daniels probably won't, so... |
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GaryB
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Joined: April 17 2009 Status: Offline Points: 451 |
Posted: January 23 2011 at 09:28 |
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Regardless of how I feel about the present administration I have never doubted that Obama will have a second term.
First of all, it took a long time to elect a black president. If he fails, who knows how many more years it will take for another black man (or any other minority) to be elected president. I don't think that the powers that be will let this happen.
Also, some form of amnesty between now and the next election will give him the Hispanic vote and that will give him a second term.
Add to that the fact that the Republicans can't seem to come up with an electable candidate.
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GaryB
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Joined: April 17 2009 Status: Offline Points: 451 |
Posted: January 23 2011 at 09:17 |
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As I have said before, I believe in the right to own firearms but I also believe in gun control. A lot of people are not responsible enough to own a gun and answering "no" to all the questions on the application does not make them responsible.
Should there be required safety classes before purchasing? I don't know but that wouldn't be a bad idea.
I just think there should be more to it than answering a dozen or so questions.
BTW, the AK47 was never meant to be an accurate weapon. It was intended to be durable and reliable.
The M16 (or civilian AR15) is much more accurate.
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manofmystery
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Joined: January 26 2008 Location: PA, USA Status: Offline Points: 4335 |
Posted: January 22 2011 at 20:42 |
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Good and Bad news from an early republican straw poll (NH).
Bad News:
Mitt Romney won with 35%, showing that the party insiders have him on track to become this election's "electable" John McCain,/Bob Dole moderate (comfortably authoritarian) party candidate.
Good News:
a) The republican's can't possibly nominate Mitt Romney because of the health care issue, or so any sane person would think (this is the Republican Party we are talking about though).
b) Ron Paul finished second in the poll with 11% (up from where he finished in 08', but not by much)
Bad News:
I can already predict what will happen now.
Roomney will get the nomination because analysts hired by the party elite will convince voters that he's "safe" (what a warm cushy feeling the perception of safety is) candidate and that sacrificing principles to win is better than nominating someone who could never possibly win (despite it being proven over and over that a weakly principled republican can't win a national election). The media will come to Obama's aid in making him appear to have moderated and the differences between moderate Roomney will shrink, in the voter's mind (the voters mind: "hey, American Idol's on" *drools while texting in Idol vote*). Obama will win with well under 50% of the vote. Edited by manofmystery - January 22 2011 at 20:43 |
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Slartibartfast
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Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
Posted: January 22 2011 at 07:58 |
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So you're saying that if a can tried to break into your house to rob it, you'd be prepared.  Be sure and stock some silver bullets in case of libertarian werewolf attack. Then we shall see if libertarians never die. Also I've heard that driving a wooden stake through the heart will kill one. Edited by Slartibartfast - January 22 2011 at 07:58 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
Posted: January 21 2011 at 22:03 |
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When I worked as recovery lawyer, the company gave me a Beretta Parabellum caliber 9mm
I am a pretty good shooter but only fired cans, because the only time I required it (A burglar entered to my parents house), my girlfriend had hidden the bullets because she was afraid.. Iván
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thellama73
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8368 |
Posted: January 21 2011 at 21:54 |
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I've only been shooting once in my life, and I found it a somewhat frightening experience (I know I'm a wuss.) I do eventually want to own a gun and learn how to use it though. For when the revolution comes. Naturally, I side with my libertarian friends on not wanting gun control laws.
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manofmystery
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Joined: January 26 2008 Location: PA, USA Status: Offline Points: 4335 |
Posted: January 19 2011 at 20:07 |
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Actually...
Excerpt:
"How many murders do you suppose these old western towns saw a year?.....
....How about five? That was the most murders any old-west town saw in any one year. Ever. Most towns averaged about 1.5 murders a year, and not all of those were shooting. You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881, the year of the famous gunfight at the OK Corral (body count: three) and the town's most violent year ever." |
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Time always wins. |
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NecronCommander
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Prog Metal Team Joined: September 17 2009 Location: Madison, WI Status: Offline Points: 16122 |
Posted: January 19 2011 at 16:00 |
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I wish I was better at handgun. I have incredibly shaky hands and I have trouble steadying myself. I've gotten pretty good at rifle, though. I can get a 1" grouping at 100 yards with my friend's AR10.
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Epignosis
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32581 |
Posted: January 19 2011 at 15:57 |
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I'm pretty damn good with a rifle, but whenever I used a handgun, I was laughably horrible. |
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NecronCommander
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Posted: January 19 2011 at 15:56 |
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That's the spirit! I had to wait until I was 11.
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Epignosis
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32581 |
Posted: January 19 2011 at 15:52 |
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My dad had me shooting at age seven.
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NecronCommander
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Prog Metal Team Joined: September 17 2009 Location: Madison, WI Status: Offline Points: 16122 |
Posted: January 19 2011 at 15:39 |
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If you wanted to be REALLY ironic you'd use the FN FAL, the "Right Arm of the Free World".
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Equality 7-2521
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Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: January 19 2011 at 13:50 |
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It's just the quintessential gun of an insurgency. I wouldn't be cool if I didn't use it regardless of irony or impracticability.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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The T
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: January 19 2011 at 13:40 |
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Oh a quintessential soviet gun used as the liberator of capitalism... The irony
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NecronCommander
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Prog Metal Team Joined: September 17 2009 Location: Madison, WI Status: Offline Points: 16122 |
Posted: January 19 2011 at 13:20 |
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Trust me, no one can wield that steaming sh*t of a weapon.  I've fired one before, the thing is just not designed to shoot very effectively.
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