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Cristi 
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 Posted: February 03 2011 at 09:57 |
 Eärendil wrote:
Anything prog-related that just plain bothers you.
Mine is when people say "prog metal" instead of "progressive metal". There's a difference 
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what's the difference? isn't the word "prog" just short for progressive?
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Snow Dog
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 10:07 |
Cristi wrote:
Eärendil wrote:
Anything prog-related that just plain bothers you.
Mine is when people say "prog metal" instead of "progressive metal". There's a difference
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what's the difference? isn't the word "prog" just short for progressive? |
In the case of prog metal versus progressive metal, I know of none.
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Cristi
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 10:18 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Eärendil wrote:
Anything prog-related that just plain bothers you.
Mine is when people say "prog metal" instead of "progressive metal". There's a difference
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what's the difference? isn't the word "prog" just short for progressive? |
In the case of prog metal versus progressive metal, I know of none. |
but i see people make a distinction between "prog" and "progressive rock"; isn't it the same thing?
why do we bury ourselves in semantics?
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Earendil
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 10:30 |
Cristi wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Eärendil wrote:
Anything prog-related that just plain bothers you.
Mine is when people say "prog metal" instead of "progressive metal". There's a difference
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what's the difference? isn't the word "prog" just short for progressive? |
In the case of prog metal versus progressive metal, I know of none. |
but i see people make a distinction between "prog" and "progressive rock"; isn't it the same thing?
why do we bury ourselves in semantics? |
Prog is undeniably progressive rock, but something can be progressive without being prog. Also, I think "prog" sounds better as a noun, and "progressive" as an adjective. I probably just feel that way because I've always called it "progressive metal" instead of "prog metal" I suppose.
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Cristi
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 10:35 |
Eärendil wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Eärendil wrote:
Anything prog-related that just plain bothers you.
Mine is when people say "prog metal" instead of "progressive metal". There's a difference
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what's the difference? isn't the word "prog" just short for progressive? |
In the case of prog metal versus progressive metal, I know of none. |
but i see people make a distinction between "prog" and "progressive rock"; isn't it the same thing?
why do we bury ourselves in semantics? |
Prog is undeniably progressive rock, but something can be progressive without being prog.
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basically what you are saying is that there is music with progressive rock influences but cannot be classified as "progressive rock"
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Lark the Starless
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 10:44 |
Snow Dog wrote:
People who insist that you haven't heard it properly until you've heard it on vinyl.
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 I REALLY dislike that.
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AllP0werToSlaves
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 12:12 |
Eärendil wrote:
Prog is undeniably progressive rock, but something can be progressive without being prog.
Also, I think "prog" sounds better as a noun, and "progressive" as an adjective. I probably just feel that way because I've always called it "progressive metal" instead of "prog metal" I suppose.
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I agree with this.
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Formentera Lady
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 16:15 |
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The use of the words "overrated" and "underrated" bothers me.
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Lizzy
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 17:04 |
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I'm not sure if it bothers me or I just find it extremely disappointing, but when bands mimic harpsichord or church organ via synths. The latter is might be harder to achieve.
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Property of Queen Productions... 
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Snow Dog
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 17:08 |
Lizzy wrote:
I'm not sure if it bothers me or I just find it extremely disappointing, but when bands mimic harpsichord or church organ via synths. The latter is might be harder to achieve.
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I like it when they do that.
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Earendil
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 19:04 |
Cristi wrote:
Eärendil wrote:
Prog is undeniably progressive rock, but something can be progressive without being prog.
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basically what you are saying is that there is music with progressive rock influences but cannot be classified as "progressive rock"
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Yeah, that's right. For example, James Labrie has described Dream Theater as "metal with progressive tendencies".
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Anthony H.
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Location: Virginia
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 19:24 |
SaltyJon wrote:
Padraic wrote:
Lozlan wrote:
Wailing, incoherent saxophone lines |
love 'em |
Same here.
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Count me in.
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Anthony H.
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 19:25 |
SolarLuna96 wrote:
When the artist releases a really long song on an album and divides it into seperate tracks.
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ME TOO. THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS. DEAR BANDS: DON'T DO THIS. PLEASE.
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presdoug
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 20:16 |
Anthony H. wrote:
SaltyJon wrote:
Padraic wrote:
Lozlan wrote:
Wailing, incoherent saxophone lines |
love 'em |
Same here.
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Count me in. |
Love that kind of thing, too.
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Sargasso
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 20:18 |
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Silence. Dead f**king silence. For instance, the last 6 minutes of Glass Arm Shattering on Deadwing before I get to hear Shesmovedon.
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javier0889
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 20:27 |
Sargasso wrote:
Silence. Dead f**king silence. For instance, the last 6 minutes of Glass Arm Shattering on Deadwing before I get to hear Shesmovedon.
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This is used quite often... Those "hidden songs" after long silences are really dull and snob. What's the problem with adding a song at the beginning or the end of the record just like a regular track? Baaaah
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http://www.last.fm/user/javier0889
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Andy Webb
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 20:40 |
javier0889 wrote:
Sargasso wrote:
Silence. Dead f**king silence. For instance, the last 6 minutes of Glass Arm Shattering on Deadwing before I get to hear Shesmovedon.
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This is used quite often... Those "hidden songs" after long silences are really dull and snob. What's the problem with adding a song at the beginning or the end of the record just like a regular track? Baaaah
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Same here. Pendulous Skin by Mastodon pissed me off so much. 17 minutes of silence for someone to read a fan letter.
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Sargasso
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 22:48 |
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Pendulous Skin is a perfect example. I think it's safe to say that only 1 person enjoyed anything after the 4 minute mark of that song.
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irrelevant
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 22:59 |
Sargasso wrote:
Silence. Dead f**king silence.
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I don't mind it. It can be very effective sometimes.
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sleeper
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Posted: February 04 2011 at 05:52 |
This really anoys me, Marillion did it on This Strange Engine, My Dying Bride on Death Triumphant, Madder Mortem on Traiters Heart and there are probably many others I cant remember. Ruins a song for me.
Tracks of complete silence lack any point whatsoever as well.
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