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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2011 at 14:10
Hi,
 
Some others:
 
Edgar Froese -- hard to miss or not include him, and he knows his stuff.
 
Irmin Schmidt -- We can talk about Can all day ... but the individuals in there were all magnificent in their own way.
 
Phil Ryan -- Specially his work with Man ... his solo stuff is not as good, or his stuff with Pete Brown.
 
Jean Yves Labat -- worked with Todd and his 2 solos in the early days were excellent and fun
 
Erik Norlander - Rocket Scientists and Lana Lane as well. Magnificent player and knows his equipment and technical stuff well enough to mix digital and analog quite well. Some say that he is a Emerson clone, but I would like to suggest that Erik is much more flexible and sometimes better than Emerson.
 
There are simply too many of them ... and there are so different from each other and do so many different things that it is hard to think that anyone is better than anyone else.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2011 at 13:59
Martin Orford (IQ and John Wetton Band) -sadly now retired very talented guy both on the writing and playing side. Check out his two solo albums.
 
Francis Monkman - Criminally ignored yet did great things in Curved Air and Sky as well as penning one of the best film soundtracks (Long Good Friday)
 
Ton Scherpenzeel - Kayak were the Dutch equivalent of Genesis. Every bit as talented as Tony Banks imo.Terrific arranger as well.
 
Dave Greenslade - Check out Colosseum - Valentyne Suite. Not familiar with his solo work although I bet its good!
 
Vincent Crane - Superb organist with no peers in the late sixties proto prog scene.
 
Eddie Jobson - mainly for the UK albums and his solo album Theme Of Secrets (not familiar with his other work)
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2011 at 13:08
Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Originally posted by dave-the-rave dave-the-rave wrote:

Jon Lord (Deep Purple). People focus on Blackmore's guitarring and Gillan's screaming, at the expense of Lord's organing.
yeah, i quite like Jon Lord, especially live (never saw Deep Purple, but am referring to DP videos, where you can see he really holds his own with the rest of the band!)
 
Jon Lord is not an underappreciated keyboardist here and much less in rock/hard rock realms.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2011 at 13:07
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

 
Mike Ratledge: may not be technically great, but the soundscapes he created are unmatchable. BTW, his organ work is pretty great.
 
 
Very much support his inclusion, however, left wondering about the statement  "not technically great". I always thought Mike did postgraduate studies in music at Oxford University in the 60's. And listening to some of his improv on Soft Machine's Middle Earth Tapes circa '67, '68 then the competition at that time sounds inferior, for instance  Keith Emerson. He may have got 'lazier' during his tenure in Machine post Hugh Hopper's departure, also muddying the waters with  statements (reported secondhand) that the earlier Machine line-up sometimes felt out of their depth with the jazzers brought in. However, Ratledge in partnership with the fair better known Karl Jenkins, are said to be responsible for what is known nowadays as "cross-over" classical music.
 
Oh I didn't know that, thanks! I was just guessing that he wasn't "techincally proficient", I mean I love him but he doesn't sound as a technical player, whatever that means. I'm no keyboard player, so again, I was just guessing.
 
The duo of Jenkins and Ratledge was marvellous.
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Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

 
Mike Ratledge: may not be technically great, but the soundscapes he created are unmatchable. BTW, his organ work is pretty great.
 
 
Very much support his inclusion, however, left wondering about the statement  "not technically great". I always thought Mike did postgraduate studies in music at Oxford University in the 60's. And listening to some of his improv on Soft Machine's Middle Earth Tapes circa '67, '68 then the competition at that time sounds inferior, for instance  Keith Emerson. He may have got 'lazier' during his tenure in Machine post Hugh Hopper's departure, also muddying the waters with  statements (reported secondhand) that the earlier Machine line-up sometimes felt out of their depth with the jazzers brought in. However, Ratledge in partnership with the fair better known Karl Jenkins, are said to be responsible for what is known nowadays as "cross-over" classical music.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2011 at 08:06
Originally posted by dave-the-rave dave-the-rave wrote:

Jon Lord (Deep Purple). People focus on Blackmore's guitarring and Gillan's screaming, at the expense of Lord's organing.
 
Definitely Jon Lord. He could get that Hammond screaming in concert. I think he is often overlooked because he did not rely on synthesizers like Emerson or Wakeman.
 
Also John Evan of Tull, and Rick Wright of Floyd, who really never got his due as a primal force inside Floyd compositions, sort of like the heartbeat of the band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2011 at 04:49
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The late legened Klaus Schonning
He died? I loved his works. Many of the cd's I own by him do not cross into "New Age".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2011 at 04:07
Brian Auger, Morgan Fisher, Gianni Nocenzi (Banco), Patrick Moraz, Mike Garson,
Vincent Crane, Patrizio Fariselli (Area), Alan Park (Beggars Opera), T. Bronsdon? (Bram Stoker) Rod Argent
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2011 at 03:03
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

I'd say:
 

Peter Bardens: lovely melodies and noteworthy Hammond playing. His synths are exquisite.

 

Dave Sinclair: another master of simply but beautiful melodies, great organ work as well.

 

Dave Stewart: the forgotten prog keyboard master.

 

Mike Ratledge: may not be technically great, but the soundscapes he created are unmatchable. BTW, his organ work is pretty great.

 

George Duke: technical proficient and yet he seems to do it so easily with groove that not many keyboardists are able.

 

Joe Zawinul: another master on making unique soundscapes and beautiful original melodies.

 


A fun list, although none of these are exactly underrated ON PROGARCHIVES. You could add Don Preston and Alan Gowen, both of whom play/played a mean mini-moog!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2011 at 20:30
Originally posted by Jon89 Jon89 wrote:

The late legened Klaus Schonning
That name is totally new to me. Can you tell me a bit about him?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2011 at 20:29
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2011 at 20:27
The late legened Klaus Schonning
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2011 at 20:14
Originally posted by dave-the-rave dave-the-rave wrote:

Jon Lord (Deep Purple). People focus on Blackmore's guitarring and Gillan's screaming, at the expense of Lord's organing.
yeah, i quite like Jon Lord, especially live (never saw Deep Purple, but am referring to DP videos, where you can see he really holds his own with the rest of the band!)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2011 at 19:29
Jon Lord (Deep Purple). People focus on Blackmore's guitarring and Gillan's screaming, at the expense of Lord's organing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2011 at 19:29
Ryo Okumoto (Spock's Beard)

He does some crazy stuff, and Morse got most of the attention when he was in Spock's. Now Ryo plays the part of 2 keyboardists for the older stuff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2011 at 19:23
Originally posted by WyattEarp WyattEarp wrote:

Here's one:Tim Blake

Keyboardist for both Gong and Hawkwind.
In Gong everyone(Including myself) gives credit to Daevid Allen,Gilli Smyth and Steve Hillage.
But
It was Tim Blake who made those Spacey sounds(Radio Gnome Series) with his keyboard playing.
Plus
He influenced Steve Hillage who went on to a Out-of-this-World solo career.
Plus
With those Spacey sounds and influencing Steve Hillage it not only makes him underrated,sorely underrated.
I'm talking about he should be mentioned as one of the pioneers of the Space rock genre.
 

good one. I saw him with Hawkwind last year and he was very good
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2011 at 19:16

Here's one:Tim Blake

Keyboardist for both Gong and Hawkwind.
In Gong everyone(Including myself) gives credit to Daevid Allen,Gilli Smyth and Steve Hillage.
But
It was Tim Blake who made those Spacey sounds(Radio Gnome Series) with his keyboard playing.
Plus
He influenced Steve Hillage who went on to a Out-of-this-World solo career.
Plus
With those Spacey sounds and influencing Steve Hillage it not only makes him underrated,sorely underrated.
I'm talking about he should be mentioned as one of the pioneers of the Space rock genre.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2011 at 18:00
Rod Argent because his history of credibility is often set aside from prog. The Zombies during the British Invasion with hits like "She's Not There" and "Time Of The Season" (late 60's Pop), and his role in the band Argent was considered straight up "Classic Rock" with hits like "Hold Your Head Up" and the semi-famous "God Gave Rock n' Roll to you".  The first indication of him falling into the realm of a universal player would turn up during the electric piano solo in the center of "She's Not There".  It's not a song that I simply go for but to play a piano solo of that nature in the center of a pop song during 1964 or 1965 is bizzare. Through the years I purchased Argent titles and was amazed at the keyboard work on "Ring Of Hands". There is always a hit or 2 on each Argent title then proceeding to get progressive throughout. At one time he was dressing in a cloak along with everyone else in prog that may have worn tights, capes, or robes. He tried to give himself that image. He really didn't need to. He was an outstanding keyboardist with great knowledge of different musical styles. But he is not truly thought of in that particular way because somewhere along the line, his career moves may have caused fans of prog to maybe get the wrong impression of him.
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