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Originally posted by Roland113 Roland113 wrote:

Ok, so as many of you know and some of you don't, I'm in a country band.  It's fun, the music isn't as in depth as prog, but it's fun to play.

We're doing a benefit tomorrow and I finally figured out what out intro will be.

I'm using "Check In" from Paradox Hotel to start the band off.  A bit of Flower Kings in the midst of a country show...heh.



Nice LOL

When I lived in Pittsburgh, I helped my roommate when he did sound for a country bands live shows.  It was a lot of fun, and the audiences were very nice to us (we both were long haired, tie dyed, non-standard music fans).  The band was quite good at what they did, and there were even some songs I enjoyed hearing.
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The Flower Kings have just surpassed Asia to become my 6th most listened to band since I started tracking the music that I listen to on Last.FM almost 4 years ago.
 
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Originally posted by infandous infandous wrote:

Well, let me put it this way.  At one time, he did read music I assume, as when he was a kid all Swedish children learned an instrument, which I would also assume included sight reading.  But since at least the Kaipa days in the mid 70's, he doesn't read or use written music.  According to him, anyway.  So I suppose, if pressed, yes he COULD read music.  But he doesn't write out any Flower Kings stuff or any other bands he's with.  I suspect, if necessary, there are computer programs that could transcribe his stuff if other players insisted on it (or no doubt, most of them could do it themselves).

What I stated was from his own words, so I guess you'll have to take it up with him if you don't believe me.  Wink

My bad.  I misunderstood what you said earlier.  I feel a bit foolish now.
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Originally posted by Garden of Dreams Garden of Dreams wrote:

Originally posted by infandous infandous wrote:

Well, let me put it this way.  At one time, he did read music I assume, as when he was a kid all Swedish children learned an instrument, which I would also assume included sight reading.  But since at least the Kaipa days in the mid 70's, he doesn't read or use written music.  According to him, anyway.  So I suppose, if pressed, yes he COULD read music.  But he doesn't write out any Flower Kings stuff or any other bands he's with.  I suspect, if necessary, there are computer programs that could transcribe his stuff if other players insisted on it (or no doubt, most of them could do it themselves).

What I stated was from his own words, so I guess you'll have to take it up with him if you don't believe me.  Wink

My bad.  I misunderstood what you said earlier.  I feel a bit foolish now.


No, that's okay, I wasn't very clear.  I just think it's impressive that he is not a technical musician in the sense most people think.  He doesn't sight read or write out music.  I suppose if he had to though, he probably could.  At least, that is my understanding from things he has written on the Yahoo group and said in interviews.
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

The Flower Kings have just surpassed Asia to become my 6th most listened to band since I started tracking the music that I listen to on Last.FM almost 4 years ago.
 
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Sorry Scott, what did you say?  I was distracted (again) by your avatar).
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I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms.
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Woohoo...new Karmakanic album added to the Paog Archives, release date, July 22nd.  Happy day happy day!
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I can't wait for the new Karmakanic album.  Send A Message From The Heart was great.
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Originally posted by Garden of Dreams Garden of Dreams wrote:

I can't wait for the new Karmakanic album.  Send A Message From The Heart was great.


I dont think there's going to be any "epics" in terms of length. But I'm sure they'll still be EPIC!
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Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by Garden of Dreams Garden of Dreams wrote:

I can't wait for the new Karmakanic album.  Send A Message From The Heart was great.


I dont think there's going to be any "epics" in terms of length. But I'm sure they'll still be EPIC!

The longest song is only 14 minutes but song length is not important anyway.  Hopefully it will be a top album for 2011. It's a little sad to see Zoltan go but Marcus Liliequist is still good.
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Originally posted by Garden of Dreams Garden of Dreams wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by Garden of Dreams Garden of Dreams wrote:

I can't wait for the new Karmakanic album.  Send A Message From The Heart was great.


I dont think there's going to be any "epics" in terms of length. But I'm sure they'll still be EPIC!

The longest song is only 14 minutes but song length is not important anyway.  Hopefully it will be a top album for 2011. It's a little sad to see Zoltan go but Marcus Liliequist is still good.


I'm not one to judge quality based on song length so I agree with you. However, 14 minutes to me is not an epic, maybe mini-epic. Like I said, I'm sure it'll be EPIC in sound Smile
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I'm probably going to get grief for this one but in all honesty, I think that the 'epic' as a 25 minute song, is a bit much.  I'm a big fan of songs in the ten to fifteen minute mark.  Don't get me wrong, I still love quite a few epics, but it's not in any way shape or form necessary for me to really enjoy something.
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Originally posted by Roland113 Roland113 wrote:

I'm probably going to get grief for this one but in all honesty, I think that the 'epic' as a 25 minute song, is a bit much.  I'm a big fan of songs in the ten to fifteen minute mark.  Don't get me wrong, I still love quite a few epics, but it's not in any way shape or form necessary for me to really enjoy something.

That's fine if it works for you but I really don't care how long a song is, as long as it is good.  Three of my favorite songs, Supper's Ready, Garden Of Dreams, Karn Evil 9, are long but their content out lasts their length.
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I agree on the song length not being an issue.  There are a lot of great epics out there, there are a lot of great ten minute songs as well. 

"Supper's Ready" is a perfect example, I love Genesis, they are usually my favorite band (every once in a while The Flower Kings or Porcupine Tree may surpass them briefly).  If you ask me what my favorite songs by them, I don't think Supper's Ready would be in the top ten, if you look at my top ten, many of them are in the 8-12 minute mark (Dance on a Volcano, Cinema Show, One for the Vine, Epping Forest, come to mind). 

The Flower Kings have more epics in my top ten, (I am the Sun leaps to mind), but still, I love "Minor Giant Steps", "Serious Dreamers" and "End on a High Note" more than just about everything else by them.

I don't know why, I just tend to gravitate towards the mid length songs.
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Well, considering that the longest track ever on a Karmakanic album is under 20 minutes (Send a Message From the Heart), 14 minutes is pretty long.  I guess there was a two part epic on the second album, but I never thought the two parts really seemed like the same song.  Song lengths don't really matter to me much at all, though there was a time several years ago where I bought albums based on that (not only that, but it was a big factor, as I thought if there was a really long track, it must be really good........I've since realized that is often not the case).

Marcus instead of Zoltan is actually a very big disappointment for me.  Marcus is an okay drummer, but not anywhere close to the standards of the other TFK drummers, IMO.
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Almost getting tired of saying this............but it's sounding more and more promising that there might be new Flower Kings in 2012.  Roine keeps dropping hints on the Flower King Yahoo group.  I'm not getting too excited yet, but here's to hoping.

Also, the more I listen to the Tour Kaputt CDs (and DVD), the more I like it.  There is just no substitute for TFK's live!  Awesome!
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I had no idea he was hinting at this, COME ON ROINE PLEASE. Big smile
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Agents of Mercy III: The Flower King Part IV

Continuing where he left off with "Retropolis", the last part of the epic Flower King Trilogy (preceded by The Flower King and Back In The World of Adventures), Roine Stolt and his Agents of Mercy bring you the next chapter in The Flower King folklore. The story takes place between the events of parts I and II, detailing the previously untold story of The Flower King's first journey to the World of Adventures, where he would first plant the seeds and spin the wheels that lead to the establishment of the utopian city of Retropolis.

Lineup:
Roine Stolt- Guitar, Keyboards, Vocals, Percussion
Nad Sylvan - Vocals, Keyboards,Percussion
Walle Walgren - Drums
Lalle Larson - Keyboards and backing vocals
Don Azzaro - Bass and MoogTaurus
Hasse Bruniusson - Percussion
Ulf Wallander - Soprano saxaphone

Guest Musicians:
Hasse Froberg - Lead Vocals on tracks 4 and 7, backing vocals
Tomas Bodin - Hammondorgan on track 2, Keyboardsolo on track 8
Jonas Reingold - Fretless Bass on tracks 5 and 6

Produced by Don Azzaro with Jonas Reingold
Recorded at the Cosmic Lodge
Distributed by Reingold Records
Tomas Bodin appears courtesy of Helicon House


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Okay, more excitement.  This from the Flower Kings Yahoo group (thanking people for their comments about the DVD):

"I talked to Per (Nordin) today  and we were both happy that you all 
seem to like it -
cause we've both put in hundreds of hours into the mixing and editing.
Now help spread the word on other messagebords and facebook pages
and you may help bringing the boys back into the studio.........

In fact - all bandmembers also seem to like it too - so the general 
vibe seems to be very, very positive.

Also nice to see that it gives a little credit both to  "The Sum Of No 
Evil" songs
  that were rated 50/50 good & bad  at the time of release -  and to 
Pat Mastelotto
who  weren't given   a fair chance to blend in and be accepted after 
Zoltans fireworks.

So besides being great entertainment for all of you - it will boost my 
ego -
so I can say "what did I tell you?"  -  I hate to be right - but I 
love to be right : LOL.

Roine."


Now THAT sounds promising Big smileClap
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Yes! New TFK 2012!!!
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Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Yes! New TFK 2012!!!


Link? Shocked

Also, has anybody heard the Hasse Froberg & Musical Companion album? I was very impressed with it.
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