Genre Classification Issues

come to think of it, Dzyan are in some ways more jazz rock/fusion than specifically krautrock

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: CCVP wrote:  I'm not trying to put gasoline in the fire, but their debut sounds A LOT like Genesis meets Pink Floyd.  After that they just leaned more towards Pink Floyd (Clutching at Straws looks A LOT like The Wall to me, from the concept to the music and lyrics, though not as dark and "deep"). Actually, most of those bands said to be "quality neo prog" are basically Genesis meets Pink Floyd, at least among in the English crops, I don't know any neo Polish band, which is a shame considering they have the biggest (or at least the most importnat) of such scene today to the point that it influences many Polish progressive metal bands. I don't deny that their main influence is Genesis, but they are not cloning them, as a fact since they blend the style of two bands, they are creating a new sound On the other hand a band like UNIFAUN, who's motto is to release "the songs Genesis never did", are IMO simple clones. Iván

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: Triceratopsoil wrote: Spoken like a fanboy in denial Not a fanboy, as a fact not even a fan,                 MARILLION Brave | review   MARILLION Happiness Is The Road | review   MARILLION Live from Loreley | review   MARILLION Misplaced Childhood | review   MARILLION Script For A Jester's Tear | review                MARILLION Seasons End | review  Apart from Script from a Jester's Tear and Misplaced Childhood, I hardly care for Marillion. But I'm not deaf.  Iván

I'm not trying to put gasoline in the fire, but their debut sounds A LOT like Genesis meets Pink Floyd.  After that they just leaned more towards Pink Floyd (Clutching at Straws looks A LOT like The Wall to me, from the concept to the music and lyrics, though not as dark and "deep").

Actually, most of those bands said to be "quality neo prog" are basically Genesis meets Pink Floyd, at least among in the English crops, I don't know any neo Polish band, which is a shame considering they have the biggest (or at least the most importnat) of such scene today to the point that it influences many Polish progressive metal bands.

That thread is great Ivan. I wish I could get into a flamewar with someone (somewhat) famous.

Triceratopsoil wrote: Spoken like a fanboy in denial

nobody cares

Anthony H. wrote: Could collabs possibly review this page? And perhaps a pin would be good?

nope

Triceratopsoil wrote: Then wtf is Marillion?

Then wtf is Marillion?

Reading band bios and genre definitions, checking out tags on RYM, AllMusic, Last.fm etc. would help solve some of these questions for you guys. 

Bosh66 wrote: I'm sure I'm displaying my ignorance but I also struggle with some classifications. Obviously many prog albums display characteristics of more than one sub-genre, but why is a band like Harvester Indo-prog (yes Hemåt contains some raga) while Dzyan is Krautrock (much more Raga than Harvester and possibly more Indo-prog than krautrock?)?

Sean Trane wrote: David Bedford in crossover prog????           Should definitely be Avant/RIO, no???

Elias Hulk are classified as a krautrock band, but they do not have a "German" way of doing rock. They should be under Heavy Prog, like the reviewer mentioned. (yes I have listened to the album)