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zbida 
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 Posted: October 28 2011 at 07:48 |
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Maybe not the best thing ever done in 2001-2010, but In Absentia is my favourite album from the list and from PT as well (doesn't matter prog or not).
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 07:20 |
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De-Loused (and surprised to be only the second person voting it, from over 20 votes already).
Edited by harmonium.ro - October 28 2011 at 07:21
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TheClosing
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 07:04 |
Like I said, you have the right to your opinion. However, don't go around claiming there's no validity in someone's opposing sentiment, especially when you yourself haven't made much of a case for your argument.
I've never heard a "conventional" rock album as eclectic as In Absentia in my entire life. Besides, If you ask me Toby Driver could stand to write a few tracks with a tendency towards a conventional structure every now and again, as well as break away from the plodding tempo he often relies on. What's truly sad is people who automatically dismiss anything that also has popish side just because they can't see how it adds to the bigger picture. Dynamics is a large part of what I consider prog to be about, but now I'm arguing semantics the same as you are. May the strongest win, period.
Edited by TheClosing - October 28 2011 at 09:10
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 07:01 |
 TheClosing wrote:
You certainly have the right to your opinion. I'm sure many people don't find Kayo Dot prog either, but then we could have an endless debate on which one is or isn't prog. Fact of the matter is they're here and people are voting for them.
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I debate whatever I like. And if I think its sad that a conventional rock album wins best progalbum of the decade on the worlds biggest progforum, I'll write it.
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digdug
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 06:51 |
In Absentia just beats out
FOABP and SLS
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Prog On!
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TheClosing
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 06:31 |
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You certainly have the right to your opinion. I'm sure many people don't find Kayo Dot prog either, but then we could have an endless subjective debate on which one is or isn't prog. Fact of the matter is they're here and people are voting for them.
Edited by TheClosing - October 28 2011 at 07:00
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 06:27 |
JS19 wrote:
Saperlipopette! wrote:
Their not listening to prog. Its just rock.
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I'm pretty sure a lot of people who know a lot more about prog than you (not saying me, that would be a lie) would disagree with you there, hence the inclusion of the album in The Archives. Would you argue with them? |
I don't need to argue with them. Sleeper's basically already said it, but you know your argument is not a valid one. Porcupine Tree would not be here if In Absentia was their only albumrelease. I like the album for what it is, btw.
Edited by Saperlipopette! - October 28 2011 at 06:28
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 06:25 |
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^ Presumably these 'many others' either don't post or don't review?(which is of course their prerogative)
Edited by ExittheLemming - October 28 2011 at 06:25
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sleeper
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 06:10 |
JS19 wrote:
Saperlipopette! wrote:
JS19 wrote:
Saperlipopette! wrote:
dedokras wrote:
In Absentia it is |
I'm not saying the album isn't fine craftmanship but man It'll be depressing if an alternative rock album wins. It not even alternative, most of the time. 3/4 of it could easily be inluded on an Adult Contemporay formatted radio station, and no one would react.
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Gosh you're right that is terrible. Actual people listening to prog. Just awful.
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Their not listening to prog. Its just rock.
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I'm pretty sure a lot of people who know a lot more about prog than you (not saying me, that would be a lie) would disagree with you there, hence the inclusion of the album in The Archives. Would you argue with them? |
Not every album in the Archives is prog, and In Absentia is one that I many others dont consider prog, though its still far and away the best thing PT have ever done.
Anyway, unbelievably easy win for Kayo Dot here with TMV offering the only sign of resistance.
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JS19
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 05:53 |
Saperlipopette! wrote:
JS19 wrote:
Saperlipopette! wrote:
dedokras wrote:
In Absentia it is
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I'm not saying the album isn't fine craftmanship but man It'll be depressing if an alternative rock album wins. It not even alternative, most of the time. 3/4 of it could easily be inluded on an Adult Contemporay formatted radio station, and no one would react.
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Gosh you're right that is terrible. Actual people listening to prog. Just awful.
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Their not listening to prog. Its just rock.
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I'm pretty sure a lot of people who know a lot more about prog than you (not saying me, that would be a lie) would disagree with you there, hence the inclusion of the album in The Archives. Would you argue with them?
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 05:48 |
JS19 wrote:
Saperlipopette! wrote:
dedokras wrote:
In Absentia it is
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I'm not saying the album isn't fine craftmanship but man It'll be depressing if an alternative rock album wins. It not even alternative, most of the time. 3/4 of it could easily be inluded on an Adult Contemporay formatted radio station, and no one would react.
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Gosh you're right that is terrible. Actual people listening to prog. Just awful.
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Their not listening to prog. Its just rock.
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yanch
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 05:38 |
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In Absentia.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 05:32 |
JS19 wrote:
Saperlipopette! wrote:
dedokras wrote:
In Absentia it is
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I'm not saying the album isn't fine craftmanship but man It'll be depressing if an alternative rock album wins. It not even alternative, most of the time. 3/4 of it could easily be inluded on an Adult Contemporay formatted radio station, and no one would react.
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Gosh you're right that is terrible. Actual people listening to prog. Just awful.
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Indefensible, another sinister teenage cult. I blame the parents (Disgusted) Brisbane
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JS19
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 05:28 |
Saperlipopette! wrote:
dedokras wrote:
In Absentia it is
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I'm not saying the album isn't fine craftmanship but man It'll be depressing if an alternative rock album wins. It not even alternative, most of the time. 3/4 of it could easily be inluded on an Adult Contemporay formatted radio station, and no one would react.
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Gosh you're right that is terrible. Actual people listening to prog. Just awful.
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Hercules
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 04:45 |
Second Life Syndrome.
The album that showed me that prog metal can be brilliant and encouraged me to explore Opeth, too.
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A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life.
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Bonnek
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 04:18 |
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I like all about equally, but Kayo Dot and Mars Volta are the ones I'd give 5 stars.
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 04:13 |
dedokras wrote:
In Absentia it is
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I'm not saying the album isn't fine craftmanship but man It'll be depressing if an alternative rock album wins. It not even alternative, most of the time. 3/4 of it could easily be inluded on an Adult Contemporay formatted radio station, and no one would react.
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dedokras
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 03:45 |
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In Absentia it is
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http://mlyk.bandcamp.com/
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JS19
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 03:10 |
I don't want any of these to win. They're all brilliant, but every single one of them is outclassed by a previous or future album by the same band.
'Deadwing' is the best Porcupine Tree album, 'Frances The Mute' is far, far better than 'Deloused', 'Anno Domini High Definition' is better than 'Second Life Syndrome' Pretty much anything is better than that KC album.
Ah well, out of these I vote for In Absentia, but it makes me uncomfortable that I'm voting for the best 21st century prog album, not just choosing out of these great albums.
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adace1
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 03:09 |
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They're all great choices but I had to go with FOABP. That album is a sheer masterpiece start to finish. Btw, I've really enjoyed this poll series! Hope to see something like it soon!
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