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 TODDLER wrote:

I cannot make claim to Rap Music being music at all unfortunately due to my experience as a music teacher/instructor. The other side of the spectrum weighs me down and I can't join forces with Rap in giving it that kind of credit. I've seen Rap performed on poetry night at Barnes & Noble and Borders Books. The improvisation aspect to it is amazing. To actually have the ability to perhaps jump ahead of yourself during word thought and improvise rhymes off the top of your head is a very difficult task to perform. As you rap,...you are also thinking of another word that will rhyme with the one you are currently speaking. So you are seperating your thoughts from your performance like a machine that has boxes of words stored in your mind and you're just pulling them out like a magician pulls a rabbit out of a hat. The same method applies to sight reading music. When you're playing the 2nd measure of a Classical piece...your eyes are reading and your mind is memorizing the 5th and 6th measure. So you are always ahead of yourself. 

I have noticed over the years that Rap Music doesn't put much emphasis on the work of harmony. Although over the years some Jazz musicians have recorded Rap albums and included diverse elements that were more directly rooted from instruments themselves and not constant drum machines and samples of other artists pieces. My personal deal is that everytime the 60's and early 70's is represented through all T.V broadcasts, radio, Rap Music, etc.....it is just sooooooo wrong. It's like going on youtube to look up some 60's band that is unknown today perform. A band that most people in the world believe is obscure where in my life during 1967 they were bigger than sliced bread. This sort of representation through the publications industry has been dead wrong since the mid 70's with the promotion of artists like Robin Trower the Hendrix copycat and forming this idealogy for people in life that all of these "Classic Rockers" like Frampton, Rush, and the later Pink Floyd are the cream of the crop for the quote on quote "Classic Rock" generation and even the early 70's generation. This is ridiculous and is insulting. It's like hiding the truth from the younger generations of today who might be interested in investigating the 60's and because they trust in the media they follow the life of Jimi Hendrix and dismiss everyone else that played great guitar in the 60's except for the 3 guys in the Yardbirds. If everyone wants to believe that way fine, but it is not honesty.  

At any rate most of the kids I taught who were interested in Rap Music thought immediately that because of my age..that would equal my interest in music to be the usual suspects from the 60's and 70's. It's because they are being educated wrong. The radio used to educate people to "Rock Music" and that concept started to die in 1972 around the time of developing "Stadium Rock' which was cheap and contrived. . How can people ever learn anything when they have  falsehood representation from the media? That's why when the local rap student observes that his dad is a Clapton or Rush fan.....that  X equals square and the end. They simply define other generations with the representation that the media has for them on a silver platter. What's up with that? Hasn't anyone ever notice the vast quanity of people in society who are brainwashed to believe in this way of thinking?    

That's heavy dude.......but I still think rap music is music, from your first sentence. 

Does everyone think Kayo Dot is music? Or maybe better, if we accept Magma's language....why do we not accept rap language?