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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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Rolling Stone hasn't been relevant for years, why is this news?
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MattGuitat ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2011 Status: Offline Points: 339 |
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13425 |
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Exactly. They sold out decades ago. It's a fashion magazine now. Sadly, these are the same dolts who run the inane Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
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zappaholic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 24 2006 Location: flyover country Status: Offline Points: 2822 |
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Rolling Stone, and Jann Wenner in particular, has never liked prog. Ever. Not one little bit.
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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken
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Progosopher ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 12 2009 Location: Coolwood Status: Offline Points: 6493 |
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It makes me wonder what the criteria was, or even if there was any. I'll wager that a lot of those on the list are there because they influenced the voters - and that is an impressive list. I disagree with a lot of the rankings, but there are a number of great guitar players on there, and at least they got both Jimi Hendrix and Jeff Beck in the top five. Some of the standings had to result from the multiple voters choosing them. There are very few on the list that I regard as poor guitarists (Bruce Springsteen among them), and there were a few I did not know. Oh well, we all have our own lists, do we not?
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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TODDLER ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: August 28 2009 Location: Vineland, N.J. Status: Offline Points: 3126 |
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TODDLER ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: August 28 2009 Location: Vineland, N.J. Status: Offline Points: 3126 |
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twosteves ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 01 2007 Location: NYC/Rhinebeck Status: Offline Points: 4098 |
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Exactly--it has nothing to do with music--it's a political --style--pop culture mag---god Howe placed in the list in the 80's I think last year or a few years ago--but god Hackett never made it at all as far as I know----but really who cares.
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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Please, aren't we used after decades of the same sh*t?
Who cares of what Rolling Stones, MTV or VH1 say or write? Prog doesn't sell magazines get used. If I cared, I wouldn't be listening Prog for more than three decades. Iván
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The Miracle ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: May 29 2005 Location: hell Status: Offline Points: 28427 |
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![]() I have no respect for RS or their opinions on anything. |
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twosteves ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 01 2007 Location: NYC/Rhinebeck Status: Offline Points: 4098 |
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so true---he loved Yoko Ono---but even the great masterpieces of prog they dismissed--Jann Wenner was never a size queen
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30583 |
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Can't say that I really care as its obviously not aimed at prog fans and seems skewed very heavily to an American perception of music. At least one of my favourite guitarists Leslie West recognised at least.Pity that Matt Bellamy isn't in there but Rolling Stone probably hasn't even heard of him .
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Proggernaut ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 10 2011 Location: Perth Australia Status: Offline Points: 124 |
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Bruce Springsteen made the list....it was at that point I gave up looking at it
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Intruder ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: May 13 2005 Status: Offline Points: 2225 |
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The sole purpose of the list is to sell magazines, so RS props up certain rock personalities to reenforce those opinions of readers who still find RS relevant (and throws in a few wild cards for those oldsters who still remember quality).....hey, look, my fave guitarst is #8 on the list - I must have good taste....pass the Stone (it validates my shallow tastes). I shouldn't pick on RS - I haven't bothered to read any of their lists since Beat failed to make the Top 50 Albums of 1982. Did Robert Quine or Steve Hunter make the list....how about David Lindley....how about Phil Miller? Edited by Intruder - November 24 2011 at 08:50 |
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I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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yanch ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 03 2010 Location: Lowell, MA Status: Offline Points: 3247 |
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Great comments all. I'll add a few more myself now that I'm calmer. First, I agree that RS could care less about prog, is all about selling magazine subscriptions, etc. I haven't read it in years either. What is interesting is that even though many of us don't care about the magazine and understand their motivation, we clearly care very much about our music and the fact that many talented guitarists were slighted, and also we care enough to post some kind of comments here! Even if we don't care in the big picture, it's nice to vent about the BS any way!
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KingCrInuYasha ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 26 2010 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1281 |
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Or, to quote Jethro Tull, "We'll be geared toward the average rather than the exceptional". This may sound a bit paranoid, but I can't help but feel a vibe of PC from these guys. If they put too many guitarists on there with technical skill, they think they'll upset the ones who are not as skilled. No, it does not mean it simple guitarist is automatically inferior to a complex guitarist. Chuck Berry, pre-1967 Pete Townshend , Ron Ashton and a bunch of blues guitarists made pure music gold with very little that could rank with the bast records praised here on this site. Still, if you look at some of the articles (check "Of Pop Pies and Fun" by Lester Bangs, for example), they'll come up with the most ridiculous reasons why being good at your instrument is bad. If this is the "true spirit" of Rock 'n' Roll, then Rock 'n' Roll is one of the most pretentious things to come out of the world of art. |
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He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball!
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cstack3 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: July 20 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Status: Offline Points: 7613 |
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Well, at least they acknowledged Frank Zappa as a talented guitarist (many seem to overlook his guitar skills for his composition, appearance etc.).
Kurt Cobain? Billy Coorgan? Johnny Ramone??? I think Rolling Stone makes these lists just to piss us off! Even without dipping far into the pool of prog talent, I could vastly improve this list....Michael Schenker, Larry Rhinehardt, John Goodsall, etc. etc. I hate Rolling Stone magazine....
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cstack3 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: July 20 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Status: Offline Points: 7613 |
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This is what John Goodsall says about it on his Facebook page: f that rolling stone mag silly gtr poll. splash? ramone? perry? hollywood dicksukkers these creeps can't even Tune a gtr! Where's Trower? hmmmm Howe?????Where's Martino? DiMeaola? Summers? Metheny mmmkay? Burton?.....whatever! At least Tom Morello & Prince made it in there. Rolling Stone Fagazine shut the F*** UP ! ---- Love that guy, what a card!
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ExittheLemming ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11420 |
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Erm...Keith Richards would be in my top ten (for feel, texture, tone and the ability to enhance what is usually very simple harmonic territory plus his exploitation of open tuning)
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BarryGlibb ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 28 2010 Location: Melbourne, Oz Status: Offline Points: 1781 |
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Or more aptly; to quote Ian Anderson from "Baker St Muse" (Minstrel In The Gallery).......... "I have no time for Time Magazine....or Rolling Stone" |
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