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Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Stonie....off topic just briefly.....I checked out your music the other night....not bad at all man, in fact pretty cool

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Stonie....off topic just briefly.....I checked out your music the other night....not bad at all man, in fact pretty cool
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Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Did anyone know that Santorum thinks that contraception should be able to be banned? Wowza


Would you allow for individual states to pass such measures?

Not directed at me, but I think the availability of contraceptives is a human rights issue. States should not be able to pick and choose human rights issues, which is why I support legalization of same-sex marriage on a federal level. It may be an extreme side of the issue, but the States do not have a right to pick and choose to own slaves. It is fundamentally wrong. Just as is not making contraceptives available when they can be available.


I think there's a difference between what States should be able to do and how the federal government should interact with the States. I do not believe that any State should be able to ban contraceptives, but if our form of government is to actually work (I do not believe it can) I do not think the federal government can override a State that does so. This should be up to the people of the State to change.

Sounds fair, but I don't think the states right argument is particularly compelling enough to overcome huge gaps in the law around the country, especially regarding definitely moral or human rights issues. In other words, I don't see what is inherent in Statehood that makes it more compelling than the Federal law. I assume state law supersedes county and city law, at least in jurisdictions where they would overlap significantly (not counting transportation or other not morally or culturally relevant areas). I can understand the federal government declining to overrule state laws not of a human rights nature, in order to preserve the uniqueness and (to what degree can be said) soveriegnty of a state. But are there no issues in which the federal government should not intervene? (Once again excepting interstate commerce regulation or something else like that). I mean we can go down the list of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and just start supposing states allowed them to be infringed...
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Funny thing is people should start paying attention to some of Mitt Romney's decisions as the head of Bain Capital. Taxpayer funded bailouts... mhmmm....
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Now comes the holocaust denial accusation...
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Originally posted by Gamemako Gamemako wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

A) There's a strong chance the ad was made by Huntsman supporters trying desperately to help their candidate.


Your insanity never ceases to amaze me.
 
 
Funny, I think the same way about you.
 
I've worked in politics, btw, and that is far from beyond reason.  It is every bit as sensible to believe that supporters of Huntsman put it out, to make Paul supporters look bad, as it is Paul supporters put it out.  It's a dirty game.


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Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

A) There's a strong chance the ad was made by Huntsman supporters trying desperately to help their candidate.


Your insanity never ceases to amaze me.
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Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but it reflects badly on his supporters, who I'd never thought of as paranoid xenophobes living in the 1950s




You mean if reflects badly on the handful of supporters who made the ad. I don't see how it reflects poorly on a supporter like me for example.

Yeah, guilt by association is wrong, but you should have second thoughts about who you are attracting...
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but it reflects badly on his supporters, who I'd never thought of as paranoid xenophobes living in the 1950s




You mean if reflects badly on the handful of supporters who made the ad. I don't see how it reflects poorly on a supporter like me for example.
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Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Probably is. Notice how there's fewer "I support this ad" and more "paid for the friends of..." ads.
Which is a way for a campaign to run horrible ads without supporting it or some fans who just do it themselves.
Paul doesn't seem like that type anyway.

Least I'd hope not.


Those ads are mostly released by his PAC. This is not. It has nothing to do with the campaign.
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A) There's a strong chance the ad was made by Huntsman supporters trying desperately to help their candidate.
B) How can a presidential candidate be held responsible for every supporter?  That's akin to saying the New York Yankees must be responsible for the behavior of every single fan they have nationally.


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I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but it reflects badly on his supporters, who I'd never thought of as paranoid xenophobes living in the 1950s
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Probably is. Notice how there's fewer "I support this ad" and more "paid for the friends of..." ads.
Which is a way for a campaign to run horrible ads without supporting it or some fans who just do it themselves.
Paul doesn't seem like that type anyway.

Least I'd hope not.
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

the Ron Paul ad he pulled attacking Huntsman for speaking Chinese to his adopted daughter is beyond contempt; I'm amazed and disappointed Paul would, or would allow, the ad to air or even be made.   Bad call, Ron.   Bad, bad call.



Ron Paul didn't do it. Supposidly, Ron Paul supporters in New Hampshire did it. It's a rogue group which apparently has done nothing except put up this video. It really has nothing to do with Ron Paul.

 Why would Paul waste limited funds on smearing a totally irrelevant candidate? I'm not saying it's necessarily some conspiracy against Paul. It could just be some stupid supporters of his, but it still has nothing to do with Ron himself.

Paul called the video disgusting and applauded Huntsman for his adoption.
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Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Did anyone know that Santorum thinks that contraception should be able to be banned? Wowza


Would you allow for individual states to pass such measures?

Not directed at me, but I think the availability of contraceptives is a human rights issue. States should not be able to pick and choose human rights issues, which is why I support legalization of same-sex marriage on a federal level. It may be an extreme side of the issue, but the States do not have a right to pick and choose to own slaves. It is fundamentally wrong. Just as is not making contraceptives available when they can be available.


I think there's a difference between what States should be able to do and how the federal government should interact with the States. I do not believe that any State should be able to ban contraceptives, but if our form of government is to actually work (I do not believe it can) I do not think the federal government can override a State that does so. This should be up to the people of the State to change.
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Oh I know...

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/il-gov-candidates-name-mispelled-as-rich-whitey-on-electronic-voting-machines.php

 



LOL! American vote rigging at its finest.
Shame it's not like the olden days when you can just have someone watching you vote and stand there looking scary. We gotta be subtle now!

Ya know things like that above, or have minorities "accidentally" put on felon lists in Florida and have them disenfranchised in Ohio.
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Points: 65801 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2012 at 00:20
the Ron Paul ad he pulled attacking Huntsman for speaking Chinese to his adopted daughter is beyond contempt; I'm amazed and disappointed Paul would, or would allow, the ad to air or even be made.   Bad call, Ron.   Bad, bad call.
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Clearly a libertarian IRS!


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Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/irs-estimate-17-percent-taxes-204637410.html
So much for fixing the deficit! Good job, IRS.
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