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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote refugee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2012 at 16:31
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2012 at 16:39
Originally posted by refugee refugee wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9249627/France-Greece-and-Germany-election-results-send-austerity-shockwaves-through-Europe.html

This can be interesting …
"François Hollande's election threws down the gauntlet to Angela Merkel"
 
threws? ... to this dyslexic that looks wrong... do we have an English teacher in the house?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote harmonium.ro Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2012 at 17:21
Stop reading Tory press. Wink

New leftie president in the house, woo! Party hardy at the Bastille!  Party

(Not for me, who will be sleeping)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote refugee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2012 at 17:27
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Stop reading Tory press. Wink

New leftie president in the house, woo! Party hardy at the Bastille!  Party

(Not for me, who will be sleeping)


Hey, don’t shoot me! I’ve never been a fan of Sarkozy. I only posted the first article I found without even reading all of it – I was busy following the Greek election on the TV.

We will get Nazis in the parliament here. I can’t believe it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RoyFairbank Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2012 at 21:32
It is joke to say that SP is a left-wing party.... They are on the right wing of the right wing of the nominal left. They are virtually identical with Sarkozy's party. The centralist candidate even supported the SP. Some Fascist voters probably voted for it.

Just because you wear red tee shirts and call yourself a socialist doesn't make you anything special.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RoyFairbank Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2012 at 21:36
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

'Anarchists' made a real mess of things here in the Bay Area for Mayday, vandalizing innocent people's cars and small businesses.  Way to go.



this is like the other side of the coin, where the SP is one side and the aimless purposeless middle-class anarchists are the other. They are not really left-wing. They are opposed to the population, this is why they either lie to it or actually go out and attack it like thugs

Anarchist is always a way to say : "I have no principles but am opposed to everything" <including decency and solidarity
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The T Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2012 at 21:45
^Which shows you have never heard of anarcho capitalism. 

Socialist is always a way to say"I have but one principle: I am opposed to anybody having something I don't have". 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The T Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2012 at 21:46
Originally posted by refugee refugee wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9249627/France-Greece-and-Germany-election-results-send-austerity-shockwaves-through-Europe.html

This can be interesting …
I think is time we go back to several different currencies and economic systems. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2012 at 02:02
"We"? Confused
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CPicard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2012 at 07:11
So, in a nutshell, what I learned from this page is that:
1) the French Socialist Party is a right-wing party, supported by fascists;
2) Anarchists are a bunch of middle class hooligans trying to destroy the working class;
3) Florida is part of the European Union.

Interesting news.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Blacksword Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2012 at 08:34
^^^ They say fact is stranger than fiction..

Whoever 'they' are..
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote horsewithteeth11 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2012 at 08:41
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

So, in a nutshell, what I learned from this page is that:
1) the French Socialist Party is a right-wing party, supported by fascists;
2) Anarchists are a bunch of middle class hooligans trying to destroy the working class;
3) Florida is part of the European Union.

Interesting news.

Apparently you've never heard of anarcho-capitalism either.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote refugee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2012 at 08:41
Not exactly news – but maybe news related? I saw an older woman at the supermarket today wearing a t-shirt saying, in white and silver letters,

J’ADORE
f*ck normality
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Blacksword Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2012 at 08:42
The European system is coming apart. Centralisation of power was never going to work with such an economically, and culturally diverse set of nations.

What we're left with is a bunch of countries in debt to the IMF and another bunch of countries. Unelected technocrats calling the shots in Greece and Italy. Spain and Portugal will no doubt go the same way.

The likes of Angela Merkal should be ashamed of herself. As German chancellor she should be batting for Germany not &rse licking Brussels for the good of the 'collective' The whole project has been 'the emperors new clothes' with too many career politicians too frightened to say 'actually this was a sh!t idea'

To think it was actually the socialist left in the UK who were Eurosceptic years ago. These days it's portrayed as a right wing perspective. I guess there's no better way to shut down a debate.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote horsewithteeth11 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2012 at 08:46
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

The European system is coming apart. Centralisation of power was never going to work with such an economically, and culturally diverse set of nations.

I think that pretty much sums up my feelings on it too.

There's a reason that the last time Europe had a common currency was during the Roman Empire. While having similar monetary policies might work, the fact that each country has their own fiscal policy meant the system was doomed to begin with.
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I just want to know where you guys get the time to type out all these links man. I mean there was a cool story about a starving black hole eating up a star last week that I would have posted but it would have taken me forever to type in the bloody link. I dunno. I think thse freaking computers are going to eventually spell our demise. I no longer have one at home. Got rid of it. I put it out on the streeet with a sign saying free computer be my guest. I just keep the one in my office because unfortunately I need the stupid thing  for my business and to come here and a couple of other sites. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote refugee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2012 at 09:34
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

I just want to know where you guys get the time to type out all these links man.


Type out? What about the good old copy and paste?

(Maybe you were ironic, I don’t know. Embarrassed)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RoyFairbank Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2012 at 09:38
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

^Which shows you have never heard of anarcho capitalism. 

Socialist is always a way to say"I have but one principle: I am opposed to anybody having something I don't have". 




Dam You, literally, where are the beavers to clog up your river? Oh yeah we killed them all in the 19th century. Embarrassed

Anarcho-capitalism is not what I was talking about. I was talking about red and black anarchism.  Anarcho-capitalism is relatively similar to Libertarianism and very, very different from the kind of anarchists that are marching on may day and overthrowing peoples cars and stones.

As for your quip about socialists ... doesn't that apply to every ideology... including anarcho-capitalism?


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2012 at 09:52
Originally posted by refugee refugee wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

I just want to know where you guys get the time to type out all these links man.


Type out? What about the good old copy and paste?

(Maybe you were ironic, I don’t know. Embarrassed)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Negoba Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2012 at 10:08
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by refugee refugee wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9249627/France-Greece-and-Germany-election-results-send-austerity-shockwaves-through-Europe.html

This can be interesting …
I think is time we go back to several different currencies and economic systems. 
 
 
It will happen on its own soon enough the way things are going.
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